“9 Ways Men Can Help Protect Women in Public” Your thoughts?

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ThisDudeHere · Accepted Answer

"1. Don't follow right behind" Oh ffs, what if I miss the early morning train that way? How come she can't just walk super-slow just so I can pass her faster then instead?" And to that one response calling anyone disagreeing a shit, how are they not selfish then? 2nd one's common sense. There's no bro-code between guys who aren't bros anyway. The same for 3. "4. Respect her boundaries." If the favour is returned, sure. Women are guilty of this just as much as men. "5. Public transportation. Don't even think about brushing past her." That is inevitable in a crowded bus. What did she expect anyway? Catching a feel is of course bad, sure, but brushing past someone only makes sense in that situation. "1. If you're walking past a woman, turn your dick in the opposite direction" For one, what if there's another woman there or the space does not permit me to turn around? Am I to miss my stop then? For two, what does it even matter if it's my dick specifically - it's behind layers of clothes, just like any other part of mine or her body. Not like I whip it out in the bus. 2nd point is common sense. "3. If you see other men trying something, step in." Didn't you just tell me to not brush up against a woman lol? 6. Common sense. Any man who'd ignore this, wouldn't read the rest either. "7. Night-time. Talk loud." What if I'm in a neighbourhood that's asleep? The only kind of noise I'd make up is if I get too close to her and she looks at me, I'd just greet her with a good evening and be on my way. No need to come up with fake phone conversations, how childishly scared can she be? Isn't it sexist to assume the worst of any stranger, just because they're a man? "8. If you see something, say something." Generally true but not always a good idea. I have two neighbours who argue all the time. It gets to the point where the woman starts hysterically shouting and crying. The first time it happened, I'll admit I was ashamed of not helping her out. But later on I realized that I had made the right choice because, for one, the apartment belongs to her so he's the guest there. For two, she fucking keeps letting him back every single fucking time. Basically she has Stockholm syndrome and I have no sympathy for her. Not gonna get involved - next thing I know she'll defend him and steal or smash something from me when I'm away at work. 9. A young girl or teenager would maybe even be someone I'd consider actually going out of my way to make them feel as safe as possible. But a grown-ass woman? Fucking deal with the adult world ffs.

Diodoro · Accepted Answer

Opinion: some girls just have a skewed sense of reality and overreact to normal events

This list largely isn't helping protect women. It's about catering to the ever changing preferences of some women

Number one right off top is idiotic. I go for morning walks every day. Regardless of the time of day. Nearly everyone who spends time outside in my neighborhood will have seen me at some point.

I do laps around a specific rectangular route. I'll be on lap 6 when a girl happens to walk diagonally into my path, the vast majority of the time seeing me already going a particular direction that I've been walking and she'll turn to where now I have no option but to walk "behind" her.

For her sake I'll tend to step to the side slightly so a minimum we have two body widths between us as pass into her peripheral vision before passing her entirely. Usually I'll just smile and say hi, it's a comfortable experience most times.

Most women saw me before they took that turn and expected me, Usually smiling and saying hello back. Pleasant experience. Every once in awhile there's that one anxious girl that there's nothing I could have done, she just jumps in fear that someone "is following" her or "Just came up behind me"

Those girls are weird and should be treated as such. I don't care if she's had negative past experiences. I'm already doing what I can to mitigate concern. I'm not gonna slow down to a snails pace for half an hour just to not scare a girl that will jump at a spider coming down from a tree. It's not a safety thing. It's her having a skewed sense of reality and overreacting to a normal event. We need to acknowledge that fact

It's just annoying as a guy being treated like a security risk when you're exactly the opposite and would help if something bad happened. Totally get girls can't know that 100% beforehand

But you can't just treat all men like threats to your safety. If you do there is something wrong with you and you need to talk to a theraaapist about that

jennifer_bloom · Accepted Answer

I remember one time I was walking home by myself at night and saw a dark figure in my way and I was scared cause he was on a bike which could easily be used as a weapon and he kept looking at me with this concerned face and saying “calm down, calm down, calm down.” And that made me feel better because he seemed so compassionate he was actually scared that I would feel scared but another guy screamed in my ear from behind on his bike, I guess with the second guy, scaring people made him feel powerful.

tatianamay · Accepted Answer

Amazing suggestions which must be followed by everyone irrespective of a person's sex, and gender.

ADFSDF1996 · Answer

Ironic, MGTOW is doing a better job of following those rules than the “feminist” men are.

OlderAndWiser · Answer

All excellent suggestions!

hahahmm · Answer

We can't tell a woman how to dress but women are going to tell men how to behave? I don't think so. As long as he's not in her personal space or intentionally threatening her it's none of her business.

I'm not going to pretend to talk loudly on my phone because you chose to walk on a secluded street at 3AM. That was your choice too. Not my problem. Maybe take some personal responsibility for your choices. If you don't want dudes brushing on your butt on the subway car, maybe move your butt out of the way when you know people are trying to get off the train?

The vast majority of guys aren't preying on women. That's why women can even go out in public. Otherwise they would be getting molested & raped if they even went outside for 5 minutes. I'm not going to act like I'm on the sex offender's registry with an ankle bracelet just because you feel uncomfortable around men.

And the only way I will protect a woman is if she is acting like a lady. If she started trouble with dudes that's her problem. I'm not going to pounce on a dude just because a woman points her finger at him. Don't like it? There's a simple solution... stop being in crowds of random dudes you don't know. Or at least have a man there who knows you and has your back.

MCheetah · Answer

I saw this shit before. Do women want fucking equality or not? This shit treats them like children (LITERALLY), and they can kiss my fucking ass with that. I don't treat women with special perks anymore than I do men or anyone else. I will help someone in danger, but I will not go out of my way to inconvenience myself or kiss someone's ass just because they have a pussy. And I'm sick of society telling women they're brain dead retards who need the world child-proofed for them, as well. You either get equality, or you get treated like special needs people who don't deserve to vote or have any responsibility in society, like they do in fucking Saudi Arabia. But you don't get both; your ass kissed AND "equality" at the same time.

"Fetedolls" can go suck a dick with that nonsense. Adults are adults because they're supposed to be independent and responsible for their own lives.

Oigit · Answer

It does go both ways. The truth is that unless I know you and have connection to you all I want is for you to leave me alone in public. I dislike when people fallow close to me and don't respect my personal space in general. Sure I can understand people invading my personal space in a store label and such. But if there is enough space in the buss seat, put some space between us. I don't want some random woman pushing her self against me. Also I will my best to nicely reject a woman, accept it and walk away. Because if you don't I'm not going to be nice about it if you keep trying.

ChrisMaster69 · Answer

The thing is bits of it can work for both genders, as guys do intimidate other guys.

A lot is rather obvious.

if two things were actually done life would be so easier - Respect and understanding Consent.

A good check on this type of thing is, would you want guys following or not following this advice when your Wife / Girlfriend/ mother / Daughter is the girl in question for each item.

cth96190 · Answer

“A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.” - Gloria Steinem
After being screamed at by Feminists for 60 years, who told me that I was filth, their oppressor, a rapist (all heterosexual sex is rape, according to Andrea Dworkin) and should be killed (Valerie Solanas), I have little interest in being Sir Saveaho for individuals of a group that has expressed such hatred of me.
I am, after all, a vile oppressor and rapist who is neither needed nor wanted.

WhiteSteve · Answer

This all seems like proper courtesy to me. Another thing I do, in the event I have to sprint down the sidewalk because I’m late for something, and crossing the street isn’t a viable option, as soon as I think my heavy footsteps can be heard, I’ll just shout out “Don’t be alarmed, miss, I just have to run by you real quick, just wanted to announce myself!” I actually might do that for anyone, I know I ball my fists up when I hear that noise approaching, might save me from getting coldcocked lmao.

NamerOfStars · Answer

The only things this kind of nonsense are going to protect women from are rational risk assessment and accountability for their own safety. And if that's the goal, I'll simply pull an Asimov and abduct them to somewhere no harm can befall them.

If this is the alternative, then women clearly need MORE danger, not less.

jamesgoldman · Answer

Like the blue anon frequently on GaG, seperating men and women should happen, two walled off continents is his suggestion and I have to agree wholeheartedly with that because it would be far easier and would deal with the chronic overpopulation currently affecting this planet, which is his reason for advocating for such a drastic measure

doopayo · Answer

This is really stupid. I think the rule of thumb is just respect people’s boundaries in general and don’t be an asshole. No need for a whole handbook guide

NightHawk99 · Answer

We've been knowing this, yet when we try to help we still get falsely accused. Why not just let women be their own heroes like they've been so loudly and proudly saying they're gonna be? The only women I'll protect are the ones I care about. The rest can fuck off.

Ninani · Answer

I completely agree. I have been in situations like these so many times and having a stranger step in to help me out of a jam (2) or feeling that my boundaries are respected really makes a difference!

maddie2003 · Answer

I can protect myself, thank you very much. I carry a stun gun and mace for a reason.

KrakenAttackin · Answer

Well, since " all men are rapists" and women "don't need a man", and the fact that many women refuse to accept the most basic common sense approach to their own safety; men no longer have the responsibility to protect random women.

EternallyCorrect · Answer

Most of this is common sense isn’t it? What kind of retard needs to be told that grabbing a random woman’s ass is a bad thing?

Aimée__LJ · Answer

All really good things to keep in mind. I can't express how terrifying it is being alone at night and seeing a man.

Renegade_Sailor · Answer

Not my problem. It's the age of equality, chivalry is dead.  They wanted this, I'm gonna let em have it.

jshm2 · Answer

That reads like some r/niceguys shit. It is not a guys job to go out and be a vigilante.

HighValue · Answer

Nah, it isn't my responsibility to help them or keep them safe.

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