@TonightYouu that's what I'm saying! Men were real musky males back then. I'm sure they turned on the cave women like crazy. I guess that's why women want a masculine man because that's the kind of man we started out with. Your answer was classic 👋ðŸ¤
A moving target. Just whatever ideas a culture has about what it means to be a man. Whether that's smoking Marlboros and drinking beer or clutching your friend's head to your breast and saying you treasure his life more than your own - which was what eighteenth century masculinity looked like.
But nowadays, it's most heavily associated with just being a dick and trying to exert power over others. Seeing every single interaction with another person as something that must be won, because life is war, and the goal is to be the last man standing.
You'd be surprised how much women can like a guy that's in touch with his emotional, feminine side. Unless they just want cruel assholes which some surprisingly do 😂
A feminine man is nowhere near as attractive as a masculine one just like a masculine woman is way less attractive than a feminine one I think people just have the wrong idea about what masculinity is
@Nadim171 Not for me. If you like being emotionally destroyed and financially plundered, be my guest. Events like that made me want to become a stalker.
The options are satirical. I don't think women want a return to pre-feminist masculinity where they can't vote and their husbands beat them when they "disobey" them but also don't want men to be complete sissies.
Yes that’s fair the choices are a bit satirical But yes they do want those traditional men and by the way it was men who gave women the right to vote and look what they did with it Trump still beat Hillary 😂 domestic violence has been an issue since the Stone Age
Because Hillary was a terrible candidate, not because she was a woman. It wasn't men who gave women the rights because they want to help women, but because women started asking for them in the first place... Women on average are more submissive than men, it's true. But it's more of a sexual thing. Women don't want to return to the 1950s.
Back in the day it was fair. Men did the hard physical labor, and went to war. Women were much safer. But men held authority. It was balanced. Today, most jobs are office jobs, could be done by a man or a woman. Machines did most of the house chores and it was no longer fair for men to hold all authority.
Society was and has always been better off from male leadership and no most jobs are office jobs men have always dominated the blue collar field why shouldn’t men have all the authority when we built the world if you built a house and a woman came to live with you and said “ it’s not fair that you’re the head of this household “ YES it is fair these women are just extremely ungrateful
Women weren't allowed to work, own property, etc. So yeah, no shit they didn't own the house. women were only allowed to participate in politics for about 100 years. We've had capable female leaders like Margaret Thatcher, queen Elizabeth I, etc.
@nadim171 because they didn’t need to work those women lived some of the most privileged easy lives than any women in American history and feminist came and ruined it most women would prefer to be in the home and it’s reflected in their current income and professional fields they choose to work in
No. By the 1950s women were capable of entering the workforce and being a housewife became boring with low child birth rates (agriculture becoming less common) so housewives were bored to death.
@nadim171 the birth rates were low because people had higher morals back then and only had sex after marriage or if a man got a woman pregnant he married her So your telling me women chose to be more depressed lonely than having a fulfilling marriage and stay at home? That’s Caaaappp and look at them they can work now and still make less WHY? Because they don’t want to work Did you see the video of this woman who was a CEO at an iT company and she said she refuses to hire women because they’re lazy they don’t want to work out in the time or effort
No, it's because people back in the day were mostly peasants and had many children to help them with their farms. Urbanization made children a liability, not an asset. Women had less children, and most housework was now done by machines (ovens became easy to use, laundry machines were invented, etc) so housewives had less work to do at home. Women started getting educated and picked up part time jobs. Slowly they joined the workforce.
Thats why marriage was so common back then because women and children benefited from it the most all women had to do is manage the home and groceries and make sure the kids went to school ate and bathed they lived the easiest lives which is why so many immigrants and aliens came here because they could live like a queen women in other countries had envy for American women and their cushy lives women never wanted to work they don’t want to work now which why they make less
Being a housewife before the 1950s was a tough job. If women went to work then, there would be no one to take care of the house. It was necessary. But by the 1950s most tasks were done automatically by machines. Office work didn't require much physical strength. So women realized that they could gain their idenpendence and make money since they can do an equally good job as men in the office.
Perhaps you should root for easier immigration procedures and more "illegals" most of them share your lowly opinion of women. Something that no modern educated woman in a america would agree with.
And those immigrant women come here and thrive under male leadership and these independent women are single lonely dog moms who are popping antidepressants like skittles
No its not but what does prove is that you don’t know what you’re talking about because women today are damn near suicidal compared to the women who came before them and lived the easiest lives of any people in American history
I think you're missing the point here. Women might be missing masculinity but they're not missing toxic masculinity, which appears to be what you're offering.
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I bet men were masculine back in the cave days!
Who else was gonna kill a 800lb prehistoric tiger with a stick and a rock
@TonightYouu that's what I'm saying! Men were real musky males back then. I'm sure they turned on the cave women like crazy. I guess that's why women want a masculine man because that's the kind of man we started out with.
Your answer was classic 👋ðŸ¤
Not at all. There are plenty of guys who act like douchebags and say "I'm cruel and emotionally unavailable because I'm a man."
If a woman's into that, all she has to do is go out on the street and throw a rock and she'll hit one.
What is masculinity to you?
62% of women have had rape fantasies clearly they want to be dominated
A moving target. Just whatever ideas a culture has about what it means to be a man. Whether that's smoking Marlboros and drinking beer or clutching your friend's head to your breast and saying you treasure his life more than your own - which was what eighteenth century masculinity looked like.
But nowadays, it's most heavily associated with just being a dick and trying to exert power over others. Seeing every single interaction with another person as something that must be won, because life is war, and the goal is to be the last man standing.
I don’t like the implication that masculinity is violent or destructive
No. I think the women of today are plenty masculine. 🤣
Not from where I’m standing.
Stand somewhere else.
You'd be surprised how much women can like a guy that's in touch with his emotional, feminine side. Unless they just want cruel assholes which some surprisingly do 😂
A feminine man is nowhere near as attractive as a masculine one just like a masculine woman is way less attractive than a feminine one
I think people just have the wrong idea about what masculinity is
I agree with your statement but a guy having some feminine qualities isn't so much of a bad thing
It is on the dating market women are fickle creatures they don’t really know what they want but the las thing any woman needs is another pussy
No. There are plenty of men today who are sensitive yet still masculine.
And none of them are more attractive than a masculine man
I fucking love a man who isn’t afraid to be sensitive. It’s hot.
@MzAsh then you’re either a liar and outlier because most women friendzone guys like that they don’t want to fuck them
And that’s part of most girls are single and I haven’t been for 15 years.
Believe it or not, dominant women exist.
@Nadim171 and they are less desired than a feminine woman
I like them more than submissive women.
@Nadim171 Feminine and submissive are NOT the same thing at all.
@Nadim171 And they are ABUSIVE. Beware.
@Curmudgeon who are they?
@Nadim171 Two of them are ex wives of mine.
@Curmudgeon dominant women?
@Nadim171 They certainly took me for a ride, financially, emotionally and otherwise.
@Curmudgeon isn't that the fun?
@Nadim171 Not for me. If you like being emotionally destroyed and financially plundered, be my guest. Events like that made me want to become a stalker.
@Curmudgeon well, text me their number and I would marry one of them, that is, if you don't mind ofc
@Curmudgeon he must have a cuck fetish 😂
The options are satirical. I don't think women want a return to pre-feminist masculinity where they can't vote and their husbands beat them when they "disobey" them but also don't want men to be complete sissies.
Yes that’s fair the choices are a bit satirical
But yes they do want those traditional men and by the way it was men who gave women the right to vote and look what they did with it Trump still beat Hillary 😂 domestic violence has been an issue since the Stone Age
Because Hillary was a terrible candidate, not because she was a woman. It wasn't men who gave women the rights because they want to help women, but because women started asking for them in the first place...
Women on average are more submissive than men, it's true. But it's more of a sexual thing. Women don't want to return to the 1950s.
They were less depressed then and much happier
Back in the day it was fair. Men did the hard physical labor, and went to war. Women were much safer. But men held authority. It was balanced. Today, most jobs are office jobs, could be done by a man or a woman. Machines did most of the house chores and it was no longer fair for men to hold all authority.
Society was and has always been better off from male leadership and no most jobs are office jobs men have always dominated the blue collar field why shouldn’t men have all the authority when we built the world if you built a house and a woman came to live with you and said “ it’s not fair that you’re the head of this household “ YES it is fair these women are just extremely ungrateful
Women weren't allowed to work, own property, etc. So yeah, no shit they didn't own the house. women were only allowed to participate in politics for about 100 years. We've had capable female leaders like Margaret Thatcher, queen Elizabeth I, etc.
@nadim171 because they didn’t need to work those women lived some of the most privileged easy lives than any women in American history and feminist came and ruined it most women would prefer to be in the home and it’s reflected in their current income and professional fields they choose to work in
No. By the 1950s women were capable of entering the workforce and being a housewife became boring with low child birth rates (agriculture becoming less common) so housewives were bored to death.
@nadim171 the birth rates were low because people had higher morals back then and only had sex after marriage or if a man got a woman pregnant he married her
So your telling me women chose to be more depressed lonely than having a fulfilling marriage and stay at home? That’s Caaaappp and look at them they can work now and still make less WHY? Because they don’t want to work Did you see the video of this woman who was a CEO at an iT company and she said she refuses to hire women because they’re lazy they don’t want to work out in the time or effort
No, it's because people back in the day were mostly peasants and had many children to help them with their farms. Urbanization made children a liability, not an asset. Women had less children, and most housework was now done by machines (ovens became easy to use, laundry machines were invented, etc) so housewives had less work to do at home. Women started getting educated and picked up part time jobs. Slowly they joined the workforce.
Thats why marriage was so common back then because women and children benefited from it the most all women had to do is manage the home and groceries and make sure the kids went to school ate and bathed they lived the easiest lives which is why so many immigrants and aliens came here because they could live like a queen women in other countries had envy for American women and their cushy lives women never wanted to work they don’t want to work now which why they make less
Being a housewife before the 1950s was a tough job. If women went to work then, there would be no one to take care of the house. It was necessary. But by the 1950s most tasks were done automatically by machines. Office work didn't require much physical strength. So women realized that they could gain their idenpendence and make money since they can do an equally good job as men in the office.
Perhaps you should root for easier immigration procedures and more "illegals" most of them share your lowly opinion of women. Something that no modern educated woman in a america would agree with.
And those immigrant women come here and thrive under male leadership and these independent women are single lonely dog moms who are popping antidepressants like skittles
That's far from the truth. But why are you complaining? There are a lot of immigrants, go marry one.
No its not but what does prove is that you don’t know what you’re talking about because women today are damn near suicidal compared to the women who came before them and lived the easiest lives of any people in American history
I think you're missing the point here. Women might be missing masculinity but they're not missing toxic masculinity, which appears to be what you're offering.
The only toxic masculinity is uncontrolled masculinity
Everything is a possibility in a fantasy lmao. It says nothing about a person.
Even about people who have sexual fantasies about children
Probably not, unless they were to act on it
😂...
Nope