If many women stopped talking only about their problems and acknowledged that men also have it rough like in dating, would there be less bitter men?

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In the question title, I don't think it's all women who only talk about their issues or all men who are bitter, but there seems to be this trend among both genders in society today.

Many women would openly talk about that only they have issues in society and that the male gender is to blame for them all, and either poo-poo men's issues away or in the case where men attempt to stand up for their issues they are called misogynistic or bigoted. And men are saying they had enough and become cynical about the opposite gender and the rhetoric even goes as far as to say all women are evil or subhuman. That's definitely not good either, but when you get a pattern of being rejected in dating for things that may or may not be outside of your control and you try to want to succeed at something and live a good life but are stopped because of some outside force, it's hard not to be cynical sometimes.

Do you believe that maybe if women actually acknowledged and tried to sympathize with men's own woes instead of calling them sexist, that alone will make them less likely to become bitter? I'm not saying that women shouldn't talk about their issues at all either, but if we are going to accept that women have issues that need to be addressed and acknowledged for them, then we also have to accept the same for men.

Enlightenme21 · Accepted Answer

Depends on the issue, why because its not about women or men its about the individual.

Looking at this in terms of control well you can't do much about the control since no one has control over anything, just yourselves.

Also men tend to have personal issues and women have issues that are created through mens actions.

If you have an issue that a woman creates that has nothing to do with her preferences which men project as well then sure why not.

Men have controlled a lot of women's rolls in the past and women are now free to speak up and choose better.

If you want a better woman then be a better man emotionally and personally.

If you just want an attractive woman then in all honesty how long do you really think that would last. She will loose interest due to your lack of interest in her emotionally which will create distance because she feels unsafe with a man who simply seeks ego over love. She gains weight dude panics and feels less attracted. Yeah women need a safety net for when shit hits the fan. Having a man not emotionally intelligent and loving creates a unsecured lifestyle for a girl.

If you find a girl who cares more for the physical well good luck then. You better not get injured or whatever.

Men will always be able to speak up just try to think more about two over one. Women think we even before they find mr. life partner.

provokeesmokee · Accepted Answer

Nah.

The men who are bitter aren't actually bitter about women.

If you even look on here, the men who constantly complain and gripe think they're a catch, and it's all women who are wrong for not thinking so.

It doesn't matter what a woman says to him - if it isn't immediately a nude, she's just another thot who blah blah blah.

That said, men DO struggle against the effects of the patriarchy themselves. Giving men more recognition that they have problems and need supports - like everyone else does - could only help those men get the professional therapy they require.

We do, as a species, need to recognize that just because you identify as a man doesn't mean you don't have issues in your life that can feel insurmountable.

Everyone has mental health, and keeping ourselves mentally healthy takes effort and recognition.

But it won't make those men any less bitter. It'll just help them heal and see themselves accurately.

Which, for a lot of incels and manchildren, will just make them dig their heels in more and whine more.

Some men are just whiny bitches and only decades of therapy stands a hope at fixing that.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Yes, sort of. Western society has a hangover from the feminist movement. That is to say that most people, especially females, still have the very outdated mindset that females are disadvantaged simply because they are females, despite the fact that they literally have more rights than males in western society today. It's unthinkable for most women that men might actually be the disadvantaged sex today, despite all the facts showing that is the case.

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2022/11/01/why-boys-and-men-are-in-trouble.html

hahahmm · Accepted Answer

Nope. Men and women aren't supposed to be the same and will never be the same due to biological differences. There is no good reason for a guy to behave more like a woman or for a woman to behave more like a man. The entire idea that men should be more soft/emotional did not come from God but from the enemy of God.

Men are supposed to be protectors & leaders. You can't be that if you're all in your feelings.

Izzy_3991 · Answer

For me, I think it's a wonderful idea to speak about men’s issues and raise awareness. At the end of the day, men are human too. They are allowed to speak about the issues that are troubling them and create solutions to help the issues.

Of course, both genders need help and need to feel heard. I don't like this ongoing battle between the sexes. It's pointless and people end up bitter and hurt.

There should be a movement that encourages both genders to feel loved, heard and cared for ❤️

Pacquet · Answer

Any sort of acknowledgment or understanding of your problems in dating will rarely come from women if any. No one is going to understand you better than you, so daydreaming and hoping someone will is a waste of time. It’s tough to overcome because rejection feels so visceral but if you can move past that it can be a tool.

Anonymous · Answer

I think this is a pointless question. Not because what you say is not valid. But you'll never reach a point where a man's problems supercede a woman's to a woman.

To a woman a man's only utility is what he can do for her. This is not to say that women do not care about men. They just simply do not care about what's bothering them UNLESS it affects her in some way. If you tell a woman a guy has feelings it simply does not compute to them.

I get it man. This was a very hard lesson for me to learn with women. How do you care for a woman when you KNOW she will never really care about you back. Oh, she'll value what you do for her, what you mean to her. But she will NEVER value you yourself.

Sorry, unfortunately that's just the lot of a man. Find a woman that doesn't make your life hard or just remain single. That's pretty much your two options. Because what you want, you will never find.

jennifer_bloom · Answer

Almost every one on earth cares more about their problems then they do about the problem of others with the exception of children and marital partners where their loved ones might be equal or more important to them then their own self interest. I do not believe in zoning in on how woman care more about their needs then the needs of others because men also care more about their needs then the needs of the woman that is ignoring them.

Sirenboobzilla · Answer

No, it wouldn't. Don't get me wrong, I'm in no way saying that we as women shouldn't be listening, cause we should. But talking about it won't change the fact that their are shitty people out there ruining it for everyone else.

My advice: don't give people who aren't willing to listen the time of day; just move on

gorydetails · Answer

Did you happen to see the woman who cut her tits off and pretends to be a man? She was on video crying because “becoming” a man cut off all her support system.

DextroShade · Answer

That may help a bit, but what women really need to do is stop thinking they are better than the men they realistically qualify for. These days you have 300 lbs baby mommas saying they are 10's, it's completely insane.

SolitarySolace · Answer

It would help but I don’t think it would cure bitter men. Years of this BS from women won’t just go away because they finally stop talking about their own issues

Nikki1989 · Answer

All I read on here is man problems, over and over again, ad nauseam. What more do you want?

Anonymous · Answer

No, wouldn't make a difference cause men problem with women are that they can't date the one they find attractive cause there's too many men on the same woman.

Juxtapose · Answer

Women don't care. Why would they? They can replace us overnight so why care about a man's problems when we're cheap and expendable?

sureitis · Answer

only if they actually showed empathy as well acknowledging a problem doesn't mean itll change behavior

Anonymous · Answer

Men shouldn’t blame women for men’s lives.
Men should do their own thing and ignore women. We don’t need ya.
Women get on just fine without ya and it pisses you guys off, that’s on you. Take some accountability

msc545 · Answer

This would be a good start but words are cheap, and in this case, would be too little and too late.

Äxlbäksölöl · Answer

Yea, women who would say ”nah” are dumb because they do not know jackshit.

lorenzomichael · Answer

No because they would just talk about their friends problems, if not there own.

grega239 · Answer

They should stop talking about their problems and solve them instead.

Anonymous · Answer

What does this even mean we have a rough time dating too lmao

Lauliss · Answer

Yes, that's very obvious.

If many women stopped talking only about their problems and acknowledged that men also have it rough like in dating, would there be less bitter men?

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