1. Nice guys aren't really nice
Duh! We're not talking about bad men who pretend to be nice guys, we're talking about genuine nice guys. Yes, even the genuine nice guys usually get rejected or cheated on. So again, we're not talking about bad men who pretend to be nice, we're talking about genuine nice guys being rejected and finishing last.
2. Nice guys have a victim mentality
Well yer, because they ARE victims. They see other men being rewarded with sex and beautiful women for simply being assholes or jerks, while the nice guys continue to get rejected. Nice guys are being deprived of sex (unless they pay for it) and are being deprived of a happy relationship, all because women today are more interested in having fun and excitement with a bad boy rather than have love and commitment with a nice guy.
3. Nice guys lack confidence
Well considering how bitchy and unpleasant women can be today, it's no surprise that a lot of men lack confidence when it comes to dating women. And even if a man lacks confidence, if that a good enough reason to reject him? He could have a heart of gold. If only women weren't so shallow.
4. Nice guys are bitter towards women
Oh no, how awful. What have women done that could possibly make so many nice guys turn bitter? Like I said before, nice guys constantly get turned down while seeing assholes and bad boys get all the sex and beautiful women, while at the same time women complain that there's very few good men left. I don't know why people find it puzzling as to why lots of men become bitter towards women. I thought it was blatantly obvious.
Imagine if you, as a woman, desired to be in a loving relationship. You were a sweet caring lady who was faithful and respectful towards men. But you kept getting rejected and had to witness all the bad women getting all the good men. It would be soul destroying. The injustice and unfairness would eat away at you and eventually make you bitter towards men. All you want is a loving relationship and you keep getting rejected just for being a sweet caring lady. Go figure!
5. Nice guys just hate confident guys who are successful with women.
In my experience nice guys don't hate other successful men. What nice guys hate is their frustration of the stupidity of women who choose bad guys and then complain when they get treated badly, while at the same time keep rejecting good men. If women rejected the bad men then the bad men and assholes wouldn't get the chance to treat women badly. So nice guys don't hate the successful men who get the women, they just hate the stupidity of women who choose these kinds of guys.
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Do you think a girl that is so unbelievably hot and can have just about any guy she could ever want, will settle down with a person that has this type of mentality? The reason girls go for "assholes" is because they want a guy that respects themselves and has confidence in their abilities. If it's not the "asshole" inside them that attracts girls... then what is it?
The "assholes" that always get laid are the ones that show self worth, confidence, stand up for themselves, stand up for the woman, provide a challenge for her, are still very nice but don't fall in line to do her dirty work, are spontaneous, and do not consider themselves VICTIMS!!
From my understanding of nice guys, most of them are very judgmental, do the girls dirty work, have no self-worth, lack confidence, act as victims, hate on people just because they have sex, and never try to change themselves for the better!
In you're eyes, I would be considered an "asshole," but in reality, I'm one of the nicest guys you will ever meet! So how do I turn girls on? I stand up for myself and her, don't whine about my problems, provide support for her problems, be a little cocky with her, show my confidence and self-worth, provide a challenge, make her laugh, and above all I respect her BUT don't let her rule my life!!
Not true at all.
You admit to having a victim mentality, you consider people that are getting girls assholes... Thus you're judging them without even getting to know them, you admit to having a lack of confidence, and OBVIOUSLY if you act bitter or disrespect girls... Why in the hell would they give you the time of day?
Based on what you openly admitted in your article... I don't see a single false statement in my opinion.
If you see anything that is false... Please explain why!
I never admitting to lacking confidence, you lying turd.
Look at point #3... based on how you wrote the article, you classify yourself as a nice guy. So, with your logic... you must have a lack of confidence.
how is it lacking confidence when us nice guys are asking out the women and they end up turning us down
explain that would ya
@CancerianMan81 because you care too much on what they think. If a girl turns a nice guy down, they take it to heart, but when an "Asshole" gets turned down, they don't let it affect them... They just move on to the next girl. Assholes get turned down all the time and it doesn't bother them. The more you don't care, the more women you get!
well I can't change who I am cause that's the way I was raised
@CancerianMan81 you're wrong. You can always change who you are... If you have motivation to!
if you have a good heart you can't undo it
Its not just women who bash nice guys. #3.
@genuinlysensitive yes men do it too
@CancerianMan81 well if you don't stand up for yourself, then you're just an easy target for them. Standing up for yourself is not being an asshole, it just shows that you respect yourself and you demand respect from them... Which is perfectly reasonable!
I do stand up for myself that's why half the time that their mad at me
their wanting to control and manipulate us
and what is pissing them off is they can't that's why you see them cutting us down for the way we are
we're not against them we're just against what their doing
to be honest I wish they understood that
@CancerianMan81 how I see it, you probably fall head over heels for one girl and you do what it takes to make her happy. She starts to take it for granted and it becomes an expectation. Then you get annoyed with her putting very little towards the relationship, so you start to change the way you act. That shocks her and pisses her off and causes her to become cold, then leaves you.
So she is working smart... Getting a lot for little effort... You are working hard and getting little for a lot of effort. A relationship must come to a perfect balance... And to me, you have a hard time finding that perfect balance!
relationship should be given evenly when i don't see that I just walk away from it I never let her dump me first that's way it's always been with me with every girl i've been with
I've always worked self preservation for myself
that's what keeps me one step ahead of everybody else
to say that a nice guy is weak is a false accusation cause we're a lot stronger than people give us credit for
@CancerianMan81 Sure, in a perfect world, everyone would evenly contribute... But thats FAR from the world we live in!
Don't consider yourself a nice guy. You are the REAL asshole! You break up with women because you're afraid to get hurt and blame them for doing nothing wrong!
Breaking up with them first doesn't put you ahead in any way. Only shows you're the first to give up!
that's my choice
they've got to atone for their bullshit
@CancerianMan81 Well you're the real asshole... Not a nice guy!
you don't have a clue about what's happened in my life cause you ain't been around me enough to know what I been through and as far as i'm concerned that you're claiming that i'm an asshole well yeah I'm an asshole to the people that treat me like shit and for your information I treat everybody fair even they don't deserve it and I don't have to pretend otherwise and as far as you having a problem with me well that your problem not mine at least I don't have to deal with your retarded ass from a day to day basis
so go drink some more of your kool-aid and leave me the fuck alone I'm done here talking with you
It's a %100 percent true what he is saying. He is hitting the nail right on the head. I was once the epitome of this "nice guy" right down to doing all the dirty work and being a doormat for them. Speaking from experience you are going to need to come to a point in your life where you are ready to admit that your actions and behaviors are the problem and stop blaming your shortcomings on "jerks" and "bad boys"
@thecd1979 Thanks for agreeing with me!
Is drinking kool-aid supposed to be an insult? I'm sorry, but at the age of 20, I'm far more socially developed than you are... and I don't need a beer in my hand to show it!
I don't need to know what you've been through... I can pick out the exact problems by the way you act towards me. I don't want to know how you act in person because it probably isn't much better than this. You need a change in attitude and mentality, and the best place to start is to look back and see what the mistakes were that YOU made. Don't give a second thought as to what everyone else did wrong because that just puts you where you are now! Once you change your victim mentality and realize your previous mistakes... you will build real confidence, charisma, and you will be a much happier person!
you're just another pawn in their scheme you can buy it but I'm not
and by the way I don't change for you I don't change for my family and I sure in the hell don't change for no fucking body so everybody can kiss my ass
by the way I don't know why you fucking people have to make a mess out of things
I'm sick and tired about fighting with everybody about who the fuck I am It ain't none of your fucking business about who the fuck I am
@CancerianMan81 you're pretty immature for a 34 year old. If you're not willing to make a change then stop thinking women are out to get you because YOU are the sole cause of your problems! I could care less if you change... It's not causing me any harm.
If your not going to improve yourself as a person, then at least remember this:
YOU are not a nice guy! The real asshole to women are guys like YOU! Women can sense the insecurities and victimized attitude a mile away, and that's why they stay away from guys like YOU! Your problems are caused by YOU and only YOU... stop blaming women for your shortcomings and grow up!!!
But if it's women who are destroying love and commitment then we should point the finger at them every chance we get.
and that's exactly right @myTakeOwner and your fucking ass @Baumber is fucking falling for their bullshit and what you don't understand I already have what it takes to do what I have to do and that's the reason why these fucking women don't want to have anything to do with me cause I can do more than what they can do these fucking women don't want to get up off their ass and try to make their life more better they want guys like you to do it for them through their manipulation and control cause they don't know any other way into doing it you fucking dumb ass
and I'm telling you I'm about to my breaking point with you people and I'm telling you I'm beginning to not give a shit if you people don't like me or not I'm coming to that conclusion with shit and I'm telling you YOU BETTER FUCKING BACK OFF!!!
@CancerianMan81 How about because not every women you ask out is going to have an interest in you. Even the most confident guys get rejected, but they don't take it personal. They will just move on to a women that does have an interest in them.
@CancerianMan81 No ones asking you to change who you are, you need to develop some confidence, change your mannerisms, stop the envy and bitterness and stop acting like every women owes you something because your being nice. Those are the things you need to change. I know this from experience.
@thecd1979 Typical how people like you don't pay attention to the problem being discussed. Nice guys aren't saying that women owe them anything. Nice guys just think it's unfair (and rightly so) that women choose assholes and jerks over nice guys and then complain when they get treated badly. Why is this so hard for you to absorb into your brain?
@thecd1979 I have confidence for myself but you don't see that for yourself and if you had been listening to what I've been posting on here you would see what I've said is true
@myTakeOwner I think what it is that these damn women have brainwashed them to point that they don't know up from down
@CancerianMan81 @Careless_Whisper It's not unfair to anyone! Women will be with whoever they want and most of the "assholes" actually treat women much better than the typical "nice guy." Just look how you two typical "nice guys" are acting towards @thecd1979 and I. You're cussing at us, calling us names, saying we're brainwashed, and just being immature. While us two typical "assholes" are presenting our thoughts in a kind, credible, and relaxed way. We only want to help, but you two keep trying to tear us down and say that women are out to get you... which is 100% false!
Now, I can't see a reason why a woman would want to date a typical "nice guy" over a typical "asshole" after seeing this great example of who the REAL assholes are! If you can see a reason why, PLEASE explain it to me!!
I don't claim to be a nice guy. The point we're making is that only a moron would disagree that it's unfair that a man needs to be an asshole in order to get a woman.
I get women... and I'm not an asshole. I have plenty of friends who get women and they are not assholes. So how is your statement still correct?
Guys don't need to be assholes... I've explained this multiple times now and I'm not doing it again. So go back and read my previous comments that state EXACTLY what women look for.
You're not an asshole, but maybe you're a jerk.
oh wow now your comparing assholes to nice guys saying that assholes are actually nice too women and nice guys are actually awful to women I honestly don't think you know the difference and we never said that women are out to get us we said that they have a problem with the way we are cause they can't accept who we are there's a difference
see with the bad boys they can control them and manipulate them cause see their delusional cause of them doing drugs and drinking alcohol and they don't know rather their coming and going where as us nice guys don't want to change for them and it pisses them off cause they ain't in control of us or themselves why would we waste our time when we're trying to build a strong prosperous life
@Careless_Whisper Lol I'll admit I'm a bit of a jerk at times. Just like everyone else... I don't really care to repeat myself multiple times... kinda gets tiresome lol
@CancerianMan81 Please, I REALLY hope you are joking right now! I'm not even going to argue with you because your last comment is too from the truth! It's not worth giving you my opinion because you're too stubborn and it's not going to change anything.
that's the whole point cause I'm sticking up for who I am cause your goddamn ass seems to think you know who I am when you don't and that's what I've been saying the whole time you fucking jack ass
and the reason why I know what a "BAD BOY" is is because I was one I changed my life around cause i had no choice cause I "HIT ROCK BOTTOM" okay I've worked through full spectrum in everything in life and you wouldn't know that cause you ain't been around my life to know that and I have a lot more of an understanding then you do i'm ahead of you in years of understanding I've been around people I've dealt with all kinds of people to understand who I'm dealing with and everybody is ignorant of the fact that they think they know who I am
in case you were wondering your dealing with an "INDIGO CHILD"