My mom has always been the primary breadwinner of my parents. My dad is only 5'6" (actually probably shorter now as he's going to be 70 this year). They've been happily married since 1984.
I agree, is not just because you are with someone that they love you for who you are. That is true for both sexes.
But that doesn't mean they all are with people they don't love. That is you assumption. You don't know what other people think or feel. You know what you believe. And what you believe and what other people think and feel are two very different things.
Given women stats show they are unhappy when actually in marriage and women file for most of the divorces among men then its quite clear to see that a lot of women aren't truly in love with their spouse.
As people get older they fear dying alone and will pick someone who they don't really love but is ok. This is the state of why you see so many average guys with women. In fact, when we look at 2018 dating trends 33% of men under the age of 30 are sexless and this is in the setting of hookup culture where women are given free agency to pick and choose which men they wish to be with. The numbers obviously drop in 30's and beyond because women will take these left over males to be their husband out of desperation.
From past research on married patterns it was found that when women were in a good state in life: well educated, making good money and still relatively young that their go to guy that they want to be with is tall men.
Do you studies? I got them too. Women's ratings of men change drastically, for better or worse, after they get to know them. Men's rating of women barely changes regardless of how the conversation goes. Meaning personality matters more to women than to men.
Women are statistically more likely to marry for love. Regarding divorce, if you are white and marry a white woman the odds of you getting divorced are close to 30%. Not that much is it?
About setting down. People you marry are not the same people you fuck. That is again true for both sexes. Men love to fuck sluts, but don't want to marry them. We don't fuck the easy people because we like them more. Is just because they are easy. They didn't settled, they married exactly what they wanted. The easy sex was just to get off at the time, nothing more. With the partners they chose they have both physical and mental connection.
Again, you are just making assumptions based on what you believe. Not on what other people actual think.
please cite your studies on women finding men more attractive when they got to know their personality. Other studies counter this by showing women found men more sexual attractive when they saw them with expensive items in their photos.
Women don't marry for love. In fact, one of the biggest complaint among women when it comes to marriage was due to lack of potential options because men weren't able to reach an income quota for them to consider them marriage materials; largely due to less men graduating college than women. Another supporting point is that one of the biggest reason of divorce among couples has to do with finances.
Most men are not given a choice of who they fuck or marry in this dating enviroment. Given how easy females can make bank on onlyfans, tiktok, instagram, twitch and other social media platforms it is quite easy to see that the average man is not choosing who they settle down with. Women are the selectors when it comes to the entire dating game and formation of family. Men by in large have very little dating power unless they elevate themselves to high value or are born extremely attractive to women.
The reality for most men is that women choose to settle down with them when they see fit and most men delude themselves of their girlfriend sexual past by not prying into it and creating a fantasy of what he thinks of her base on how she presents to him.
For example, many of the women who did GirlsDoPorn had no problem ending up with an average guy who put a ring on their finger and committed his life to him. Stacey Anthony who was found guilty of murdering a child had no problem finding a man to wife her up and put a ring on her.
Not making assumptions. Everything i stated can be backed up and support by data. A lot of what you are saying is the false fantasy world that society tells you so you can be a beta bux for a slut after she has got off the cock carousal and needs a retirement plan.
It was a documentary on Netflix about attention. It's a series of documentaries called "Explained" and they have an episode per topic.
Women don't want a super rich man, but they want one that can provide for the house. They don't care if we make less or more than they make, but they don't want a lazy blob on the couch. Well since today men are not going to college and you need it to get a decent job you have your answer. Yes finances cause a lot of divorces, but that doesn't mean it's because the husband makes less. In fact if you look it up you will see that when the wife makes more the person that takes more issue with that is usually the husband.
Men also have accounts that make a lot on all of those platforms. Average girls can't do it. And of course they can't. There are many 10/10 girls doing it so those get the views while the 7/10 or lower gets none. Of course we can chose. You can chose to say yes or no. If you say yes just because you feel that girl is your only option that is your problem.
Again, people you fuck, are not the same people you marry. A quick fuck means nothing. You think all that matters to women are looks when studies show the opposite. They would settle if they just end up with a guy that just looks good and has nothing more to offer.
When girls do porn, it's their job. People need to separate porn from real life. They are actors. They are just actors who fuck, but still actors. They have no problem being with a guy YOU are calling average. To them their man is the most incredible person ever. Once more, your assumptions don't respresent how people actually think.
You are looking at the supposed data and taking the wrong conclusions. You just tried to make sense of porn. Porn of all things! Like it represents reality!
About the last comment. My wife makes more than me. Always has, always will. Society tells you need to be tall, handsome, rich and what not to have a partner. That's what society tells you. YOU are the one listening to mainstream bs. Stop eating those lies.
A netflix documentary of such behavior is hardly what I would use for a scientific discussion. The reason being that such streaming station would never air a documentary detailing that women are less virtuous than men and such would only put forth content to continue the narrative that women care more about personality while men are shallow pigs.
Never said women want a rich man. However, it has been statistically shown that women want men who make at least 39-53% more than her income salary. In fact, studies have even shown that a woman's "attraction" for a man goes up greatly if said male makes 10x her salary. This is why we have things in our society like sugar daddies. This is why girls will leave you at the club to go hang out at the VIP with the club ballers. This is why we see million of women on tiktok, instagram talking about not settling for broke men. This is why we have women being dissatisfied with the marriage options available to them and writing articles about it. In short, most women do not marry you for love. They take a calculated risk of what you can offer them and choose to invest into you if they see you can pay off for them in the future. Granted, this does not apply to all women but this is general rule plan for most.
A netflix documentary of such behavior is hardly what I would use for a scientific discussion. The reason being that such streaming station would never air a documentary detailing that women are less virtuous than men and such would only put forth content to continue the narrative that women care more about personality while men are shallow pigs.
Never said women want a rich man. However, it has been statistically shown that women want men who make at least 39-53% more than her income salary. In fact, studies have even shown that a woman's "attraction" for a man goes up greatly if said male makes 10x her salary. This is why we have things in our society like sugar daddies. This is why girls will leave you at the club to go hang out at the VIP with the club ballers. This is why we see million of women on tiktok, instagram talking about not settling for broke men. This is why we have women being dissatisfied with the marriage options available to them and writing articles about it. In short, most women do not marry you for love. They take a calculated risk of what you can offer them and choose to invest into you if they see you can pay off for them in the future. Granted, this does not apply to all women but this is general rule plan for most.
"Men also have accounts that make a lot on all of those platforms. Average girls can't do it. And of course they can't. There are many 10/10 girls doing it so those get the views while the 7/10 or lower gets none. Of course we can chose. You can chose to say yes or no. If you say yes just because you feel that girl is your only option that is your problem."
This is entirely false. Average girls can very well make bank. In fact, an average girl once tested to see how easy it was to make money on OF and she made like an extra 11k/month passively just from half assing it and posting bikini pics of her self on there. Just google it on youtube if you will.
And no. Men don't make nearly as much bank as women on OF. Most of the time when guys are on OF, they are doing couple porn with their women, an exclusively male onlyfans does not make as much bank as women.
"Again, people you fuck, are not the same people you marry. A quick fuck means nothing. You think all that matters to women are looks when studies show the opposite. They would settle if they just end up with a guy that just looks good and has nothing more to offer."
I never said all that matters to women are looks. I am saying when women do not need men's financial resources and are in a good state in life that you get a glimpse of what they actual like and go for. And you can clearly see evidence of this when we look at hookup culture and the type of men who get sex the most.
Women only go for lesser men when they need commitment, worry about dying alone, not a good place financially and want to start a family.
"When girls do porn, it's their job. People need to separate porn from real life. They are actors. They are just actors who fuck, but still actors. They have no problem being with a guy YOU are calling average. To them their man is the most incredible person ever. Once more, your assumptions don't respresent how people actually think"
GDP was a series made by a shady casting agency that lured models to the room and got them to sign contract to do porn; many of these girls did not do porn prior and were normal everyday women. Many of these girls even having been blasted on the internet for everyone to see their content still managed to get commitment in the end. The point being these girls would be categorize among any normal man as the girls you find easy and therefore should be looked over for marriage but yet here they are with a ring on it. Even the most disgusting and monstrous women will find commitment from a man because again men today have little standards and every minute a simp is born that will marry a woman regardless.
"My wife makes more than me. Always has, always will. Society tells you need to be tall, handsome, rich and what not to have a partner. That's what society tells you. YOU are the one listening to mainstream bs. Stop eating those lies."
Telling me your wife makes more than you tells me nothing about your actual relationship. My general premise is not that you need to be tall, handsome or insanely rich to get women, which shows you didn't even read the question thoroughly. The whole premise was stating that most women can fake love you if you provide for her and do everything society says you need to do as a man. However, you will never get that actual real physical attraction and pure love that men have for women unless you reach a certain height threshold.
It is a show with several episodes on many topics. And let me be clear at no point they paint men as pigs or inferior in any way. They just point out that men are more visual than women are. Which is very much true.
You are confusing correlation with causation. Just because men happen to make more in the relationship doesn't mean that's why they are with them. In fact today in 1/3 of all relationships women make more. Go see any poll even here on the subject, girls don't care that you make more than them, they care that you make some. Also the things you describe happen, with gold diggers. They are the ones with sugar daddies. Most women would never settle for a old guy what look like a used sponge, with the personality of a brick just for money.
You have to tell me how average that girl was. There is far to much competition for most people to make reliable money. That much is a fact. Actually if you make content for gay men you will make as much money as women do. You don't have to put anything up your ass, just need to do sexy poses and accept to send more revealing pictures to men if they offer more money. If you think that is disgusting, that's exactly how most OF feel about their audience. They push through that feeling of disgust and so can you.
Get sex the most doesn't mean you win. You win when you have a loving life partner. Whores and sluts also have tons of sex. So what? Is just sex. Boy toys are worth as much to them as sluts are to us. Understand that. At the end of the day, they want a guy that both looks good and has a great personality. In other words an upgrade from the boy toy that is just used for a fuck. Yes the boy toy has more sex. So what? He is still just the appetizer.
Again, is just sex. Why shouldn't a girl or a guy who worked at porn find a partner? As long as they bring to the table more than just their sex expertise of course.
You say that society pushes men to be the provider, but you don't think it pushes us to be physically perfect and super manly? Of course it does. That's the narrative. A false one. While yes women can fake love, so can we, so can everyone. So what? Don't make a rule out of it. Specifically don't make a rule about height. Women are humans. Not aliens. We can love each other for just who the other person is. That's a human thing.
Lol it’s not so great being tall but it helps. I have had tall women with short husbands come on to me. I’m 6”5 but nobody is perfect. I have bad insecurities
I disagree.. I'm 6"4 and I never found a women to truly love me.
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Being tall alone does not mean that you will have thousand of women throwing themselves at you. However, best believe if a woman does fancy you, she is more likely to genuinely fall in love with you if you are 6'2+ compared to if you are say under 6'0.
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This is simply not true.
I am 5'2, I don't care whether he's 8 or 16 inches taller.
everyone has a preference, you can't summerize a gender with a couple examples.
Being 6'2 means no one loves me this is entirely due to my height and has absolutely nothing to do with anything else.
My mom has always been the primary breadwinner of my parents. My dad is only 5'6" (actually probably shorter now as he's going to be 70 this year). They've been happily married since 1984.
Oh yeah. Being under 6’2 is a red flag for sure.
Of course not.
Go for a walk. You will see more couples where she is taller than you used to. Times are changing, tastes are changing.
Combination of women settling. Man having money to provide for women.
Just because you have a girl does not mean she actually loves you for who you are.
I agree, is not just because you are with someone that they love you for who you are. That is true for both sexes.
But that doesn't mean they all are with people they don't love. That is you assumption. You don't know what other people think or feel. You know what you believe. And what you believe and what other people think and feel are two very different things.
Given women stats show they are unhappy when actually in marriage and women file for most of the divorces among men then its quite clear to see that a lot of women aren't truly in love with their spouse.
As people get older they fear dying alone and will pick someone who they don't really love but is ok. This is the state of why you see so many average guys with women. In fact, when we look at 2018 dating trends 33% of men under the age of 30 are sexless and this is in the setting of hookup culture where women are given free agency to pick and choose which men they wish to be with. The numbers obviously drop in 30's and beyond because women will take these left over males to be their husband out of desperation.
From past research on married patterns it was found that when women were in a good state in life: well educated, making good money and still relatively young that their go to guy that they want to be with is tall men.
Do you studies? I got them too.
Women's ratings of men change drastically, for better or worse, after they get to know them. Men's rating of women barely changes regardless of how the conversation goes. Meaning personality matters more to women than to men.
Women are statistically more likely to marry for love. Regarding divorce, if you are white and marry a white woman the odds of you getting divorced are close to 30%. Not that much is it?
About setting down.
People you marry are not the same people you fuck. That is again true for both sexes. Men love to fuck sluts, but don't want to marry them.
We don't fuck the easy people because we like them more. Is just because they are easy.
They didn't settled, they married exactly what they wanted. The easy sex was just to get off at the time, nothing more.
With the partners they chose they have both physical and mental connection.
Again, you are just making assumptions based on what you believe. Not on what other people actual think.
please cite your studies on women finding men more attractive when they got to know their personality. Other studies counter this by showing women found men more sexual attractive when they saw them with expensive items in their photos.
Women don't marry for love. In fact, one of the biggest complaint among women when it comes to marriage was due to lack of potential options because men weren't able to reach an income quota for them to consider them marriage materials; largely due to less men graduating college than women. Another supporting point is that one of the biggest reason of divorce among couples has to do with finances.
Most men are not given a choice of who they fuck or marry in this dating enviroment. Given how easy females can make bank on onlyfans, tiktok, instagram, twitch and other social media platforms it is quite easy to see that the average man is not choosing who they settle down with. Women are the selectors when it comes to the entire dating game and formation of family. Men by in large have very little dating power unless they elevate themselves to high value or are born extremely attractive to women.
The reality for most men is that women choose to settle down with them when they see fit and most men delude themselves of their girlfriend sexual past by not prying into it and creating a fantasy of what he thinks of her base on how she presents to him.
For example, many of the women who did GirlsDoPorn had no problem ending up with an average guy who put a ring on their finger and committed his life to him. Stacey Anthony who was found guilty of murdering a child had no problem finding a man to wife her up and put a ring on her.
Not making assumptions. Everything i stated can be backed up and support by data. A lot of what you are saying is the false fantasy world that society tells you so you can be a beta bux for a slut after she has got off the cock carousal and needs a retirement plan.
It was a documentary on Netflix about attention. It's a series of documentaries called "Explained" and they have an episode per topic.
Women don't want a super rich man, but they want one that can provide for the house. They don't care if we make less or more than they make, but they don't want a lazy blob on the couch. Well since today men are not going to college and you need it to get a decent job you have your answer.
Yes finances cause a lot of divorces, but that doesn't mean it's because the husband makes less. In fact if you look it up you will see that when the wife makes more the person that takes more issue with that is usually the husband.
Men also have accounts that make a lot on all of those platforms. Average girls can't do it. And of course they can't. There are many 10/10 girls doing it so those get the views while the 7/10 or lower gets none.
Of course we can chose. You can chose to say yes or no. If you say yes just because you feel that girl is your only option that is your problem.
Again, people you fuck, are not the same people you marry. A quick fuck means nothing. You think all that matters to women are looks when studies show the opposite. They would settle if they just end up with a guy that just looks good and has nothing more to offer.
When girls do porn, it's their job. People need to separate porn from real life. They are actors. They are just actors who fuck, but still actors.
They have no problem being with a guy YOU are calling average. To them their man is the most incredible person ever.
Once more, your assumptions don't respresent how people actually think.
You are looking at the supposed data and taking the wrong conclusions. You just tried to make sense of porn. Porn of all things! Like it represents reality!
About the last comment. My wife makes more than me. Always has, always will. Society tells you need to be tall, handsome, rich and what not to have a partner. That's what society tells you. YOU are the one listening to mainstream bs.
Stop eating those lies.
A netflix documentary of such behavior is hardly what I would use for a scientific discussion. The reason being that such streaming station would never air a documentary detailing that women are less virtuous than men and such would only put forth content to continue the narrative that women care more about personality while men are shallow pigs.
Never said women want a rich man. However, it has been statistically shown that women want men who make at least 39-53% more than her income salary. In fact, studies have even shown that a woman's "attraction" for a man goes up greatly if said male makes 10x her salary. This is why we have things in our society like sugar daddies. This is why girls will leave you at the club to go hang out at the VIP with the club ballers. This is why we see million of women on tiktok, instagram talking about not settling for broke men. This is why we have women being dissatisfied with the marriage options available to them and writing articles about it. In short, most women do not marry you for love. They take a calculated risk of what you can offer them and choose to invest into you if they see you can pay off for them in the future. Granted, this does not apply to all women but this is general rule plan for most.
A netflix documentary of such behavior is hardly what I would use for a scientific discussion. The reason being that such streaming station would never air a documentary detailing that women are less virtuous than men and such would only put forth content to continue the narrative that women care more about personality while men are shallow pigs.
Never said women want a rich man. However, it has been statistically shown that women want men who make at least 39-53% more than her income salary. In fact, studies have even shown that a woman's "attraction" for a man goes up greatly if said male makes 10x her salary. This is why we have things in our society like sugar daddies. This is why girls will leave you at the club to go hang out at the VIP with the club ballers. This is why we see million of women on tiktok, instagram talking about not settling for broke men. This is why we have women being dissatisfied with the marriage options available to them and writing articles about it. In short, most women do not marry you for love. They take a calculated risk of what you can offer them and choose to invest into you if they see you can pay off for them in the future. Granted, this does not apply to all women but this is general rule plan for most.
"Men also have accounts that make a lot on all of those platforms. Average girls can't do it. And of course they can't. There are many 10/10 girls doing it so those get the views while the 7/10 or lower gets none.
Of course we can chose. You can chose to say yes or no. If you say yes just because you feel that girl is your only option that is your problem."
This is entirely false. Average girls can very well make bank. In fact, an average girl once tested to see how easy it was to make money on OF and she made like an extra 11k/month passively just from half assing it and posting bikini pics of her self on there. Just google it on youtube if you will.
And no. Men don't make nearly as much bank as women on OF. Most of the time when guys are on OF, they are doing couple porn with their women, an exclusively male onlyfans does not make as much bank as women.
"Again, people you fuck, are not the same people you marry. A quick fuck means nothing. You think all that matters to women are looks when studies show the opposite. They would settle if they just end up with a guy that just looks good and has nothing more to offer."
I never said all that matters to women are looks. I am saying when women do not need men's financial resources and are in a good state in life that you get a glimpse of what they actual like and go for. And you can clearly see evidence of this when we look at hookup culture and the type of men who get sex the most.
Women only go for lesser men when they need commitment, worry about dying alone, not a good place financially and want to start a family.
"When girls do porn, it's their job. People need to separate porn from real life. They are actors. They are just actors who fuck, but still actors.
They have no problem being with a guy YOU are calling average. To them their man is the most incredible person ever.
Once more, your assumptions don't respresent how people actually think"
GDP was a series made by a shady casting agency that lured models to the room and got them to sign contract to do porn; many of these girls did not do porn prior and were normal everyday women. Many of these girls even having been blasted on the internet for everyone to see their content still managed to get commitment in the end. The point being these girls would be categorize among any normal man as the girls you find easy and therefore should be looked over for marriage but yet here they are with a ring on it. Even the most disgusting and monstrous women will find commitment from a man because again men today have little standards and every minute a simp is born that will marry a woman regardless.
"My wife makes more than me. Always has, always will. Society tells you need to be tall, handsome, rich and what not to have a partner. That's what society tells you. YOU are the one listening to mainstream bs.
Stop eating those lies."
Telling me your wife makes more than you tells me nothing about your actual relationship. My general premise is not that you need to be tall, handsome or insanely rich to get women, which shows you didn't even read the question thoroughly. The whole premise was stating that most women can fake love you if you provide for her and do everything society says you need to do as a man. However, you will never get that actual real physical attraction and pure love that men have for women unless you reach a certain height threshold.
It is a show with several episodes on many topics. And let me be clear at no point they paint men as pigs or inferior in any way. They just point out that men are more visual than women are. Which is very much true.
You are confusing correlation with causation. Just because men happen to make more in the relationship doesn't mean that's why they are with them. In fact today in 1/3 of all relationships women make more. Go see any poll even here on the subject, girls don't care that you make more than them, they care that you make some.
Also the things you describe happen, with gold diggers. They are the ones with sugar daddies. Most women would never settle for a old guy what look like a used sponge, with the personality of a brick just for money.
You have to tell me how average that girl was. There is far to much competition for most people to make reliable money. That much is a fact.
Actually if you make content for gay men you will make as much money as women do. You don't have to put anything up your ass, just need to do sexy poses and accept to send more revealing pictures to men if they offer more money. If you think that is disgusting, that's exactly how most OF feel about their audience. They push through that feeling of disgust and so can you.
Get sex the most doesn't mean you win. You win when you have a loving life partner. Whores and sluts also have tons of sex. So what? Is just sex. Boy toys are worth as much to them as sluts are to us. Understand that.
At the end of the day, they want a guy that both looks good and has a great personality. In other words an upgrade from the boy toy that is just used for a fuck.
Yes the boy toy has more sex. So what? He is still just the appetizer.
Again, is just sex. Why shouldn't a girl or a guy who worked at porn find a partner? As long as they bring to the table more than just their sex expertise of course.
You say that society pushes men to be the provider, but you don't think it pushes us to be physically perfect and super manly? Of course it does. That's the narrative. A false one.
While yes women can fake love, so can we, so can everyone. So what? Don't make a rule out of it. Specifically don't make a rule about height. Women are humans. Not aliens. We can love each other for just who the other person is. That's a human thing.
Lol it’s not so great being tall but it helps. I have had tall women with short husbands come on to me. I’m 6”5 but nobody is perfect. I have bad insecurities
No, because I'm exactly 6'2" and confirm women still do not love me.
In my country the male average is 170 cm so I don't care.
I disagree.. I'm 6"4 and I never found a women to truly love me.
Being tall alone does not mean that you will have thousand of women throwing themselves at you. However, best believe if a woman does fancy you, she is more likely to genuinely fall in love with you if you are 6'2+ compared to if you are say under 6'0.
I mean if you want a woman who cares about stupid shit like that than yes
Women prefer taller men, like men prefer thinner women
It's CLICHE AF
Women who only like tall guys have a daddy complex.
Yes. I suspect my wife of 15 years is just playing a long game to gain control of my video games.
This is true.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CgUe4S0DHKc/?igshid=NmZiMzY2Mjc=
If the moral you take away from all of that is "don't be a loser guy" then you're on to something.
Your odds of finding love sky rockets if you're tall and handsome
Then that specific type of woman who's after height basically has her standards up high.
Women will never truly love a man no matter what. Women see men as a source of resources.
Oh do put a (preferably smelly) sock in it!
I don't believe that just stay away from shallow women.