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Do some guys really give up on all relationships with women? Girls, what do you think of these guys? (Page 3)
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MGTOW is dumb. Grown men refusing to date because their high school sweetheart broke up with them and the girls they talk to at bars dont seem interested.
I don't care, it just makes a surplus population of women who won't have a partner. That will make it easier for me to find a good wife - since you guys are too afraid to take a chance with women.
Well that sucks. There are WAY too many young guys these days who aren't interested in putting effort into women and don't want a relationship.
Guess no one told them you don't find good women hanging out at bars on weekdays either.
Usually after periods of great wars would many women find themselves without husbands and unable to have families with men their own age, because all of the ones that were still alive are already married. Now it's just because talking to girls is too hard.
MGTOW is a knee-jerk reaction to modern feminism and in reality its hurting us just as bad.
MGTOW is a real thing and it isn't dumb.
Some of the nicest guys I know have sworn off women and haven't dated in years. They don't dislike women at all they just don't date them.
It's making the division between the sexes greater, just like feminism. Men and women are supposed to be together.
@love2run13
"who aren't interested in putting effort into women"
Why should they have to? A lot of men are bitter about this fact that women think that the man has to "work" to "earn the right" to be with the girl. I don't really blame them honestly.
uh yes the guy should most certainly work to get the woman. why shouldn't he is the question. just as women should be there to support her man emotionally and such once he wins her over. in all other species, its always the males who win over the females simply because the females have more to loose if they get pregnant by him.
@love2run13 a man shouldn't work to get women simply because they want equality. no one wants to fight to keep something that won't stay if you look away from it for 15 minutes.
@thatkaruguy
I guess you guys are talking about courting a woman.. If you want her to love you then you have to make an effort for her, that's just how it is. How can you love someone who makes no effort to do anything for you? I know men go through the same emotions with that too.
MGTOW has nothing to do with refusing to date. Plenty of MGTOW date, or have other relationships with women. It's not about that at all.
Some MGTOW don't date, and that's not specifically un-MGTOW, but neither is pursuing relationships with women.
Getting married, however, is specifically un-MGTOW.
@love2run13
"putting effort into women."
That's the crux of the problem. Women expect to be treated like prizes, not people (who have their own share of work to do and can be held accountable). It's not about putting in effort -- it's about being the ONLY ONE expected to put in effort, and to be the one to make it ALL happen, at his own risk, and at his own expense.
@thatkaruguy
Bingo.
thank you @transgience dating has become a 1way street everything she does for you is just seen as some kind of bonus that you should be thankful for that she even did it while everything you did for her is to be expected its crazy.
Well believe it or not, I personally as a female do NOT see things that way, I believe that both men and women should put in equal amounts of effort and right now it seems like men just don't try anymore like they used to. A guy I recently went crazy over walked away even though I waz the one making ALL the advances, ALL of the compliments and expenses when he said he liked me but then found out he wouldn't commit all cuz he's wrecked over some "wrong woman". Even when he has a female doing everything in her power to win him over. But there comes a time when you have to move on and find someone who WILL put in the same amount of effort you do. It does not happen only to men. I hate making this a gender issue when its a societal issue with the dating world today.
I've just given up. I've tried and no takers. I'm 33, have a decent job, educated, can cook, clean, and I'm not the ugliest guy around... But it's over for me. Women have made it clear that I am undesirable. I'm learning to live with that. More than a decade of being single and constant rejection has finally made it clear to me.
I get zero likes on any dating websites. I have women that I've been close to for years that when I get a chance to make a move it is yet another let down. I really don't know what it is about me.
Best of luck dating world. I really hope people can find happiness.
Way I see it, woman have a lot more social support around them. Such as friends and families... guys seem weak if they want to talk about their feelings, so their only outlet is online.
That sucks
Indeed... sucks when you feel bad but also feel as if being a guy means your unable to show emotions.
I don't see why a guy would want to give up on women completely but I can understand giving up on marriage and serious relationships.
This type of shit just kills it
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1566444-have-you-ever-secretly-had-sex-with-your-friends-girlfriend-boyfriend
Eh, thought's crossed my mind. But I wouldn't give up on women just because my taste is poor. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then. Maybe someday I'll get lucky and pick the right one. Or I'll just die. No worries either way.
a blind squirrel is more likely to fall off a tree / get run over / die from hunger, than find a single nut during its lifetime, so don't feed people false bullshit.
I've given up for two reasons:
- Guys who are objectively better looking, more approachable and more confident than I am have trouble getting into relationships. Why participate in a game I cannot win, seeing as though the more qualified participants are being knocked out left and right?
- I see no point in relationships when the upsides (emotional and sexual gratification) are outweighed by the downsides (social consequences and in the case of marriage, the loss of everything I own), should shit go south.
I haven't given up on relationships, i will keep fighting for the people i love and care about, and always honor them and myself
If i do that, if i am the man i want to become... Th relationship, will happen, i will find a woman who is everything i need
I think woman aren't mature if they break up with someone over being so feminist or him watching porn seriosuly the relationship is better with not being together because they dont accept each others personality traits so yeah i think guys dont deserve to change just because of that and women dont need to change just be more emotionaly intelligent woman aren't that vitctims ;)
Some guys give up on women than become homosexual. That is not trolling some guys really do that. I wouldn't give up as there many good women out there. Something my dad said: you find a wife in a library, not the streets.
I don't think many homosexuals are just guys who got tired of women.
The amount of effort needed to MAYBE get what you want in terms of a relationship is very high, so I've chosen to give that up and been happier for it.
I love women, we all have baggage especially the older we get. I'm 54 years old soon 55 and dating stinks! Online dating is the worst! We all have what we prefer in personality and physical attraction in a person: getting that to match together is the challenge. I am not looking for a lady any younger than say 48 to 58. I've dated some really attractive women including my ex-wife of 24 years; unfortunately we went our own ways but we are still friends. Online dating favors women: period. No more. Where I live right now, Boise, Idaho is the worst I have ever seen for finding women and I have lived in almost every state and three years in Germany.
These seem to be badly burned guys , but equally they are just corroding themselves with toxic hate. Yes guys are at a disadvantage in the world of dating & actually meeting women , if you want to stay single then fine , relationships are NOT for everyone... being single is an opportunity to work on yourself instead of bitching & moaning. Some guys have been through hell because of ex-partners , so some guys do have a point.
Marriage is either arranged by the parents or daughters are given to prospective buyers. Women have NO CHOICE.
Girls are supposed to be in the custody of their father when they are children, women must be under the custody of their husband when married and under the custody of her son as widows.
In NO circumstances is she allowed to assert herself independently.
Men may be lacking virtue, be sexual perverts, immoral and devoid of any good qualities, and yet women must constantly worship and serve their husbands. A man should not have his meals in the company of his wife and even avoid looking at her.
Ewwww
ARE U SERIOUS? wow...
Those movements aren't about men who gave up on women MGTOW is a guy who refuses to be a drone to women
To be honest i doubt girls care cause mgtow and all the other stuff hasn't impacted them like feminism did us yet but it will soon and im gonna be watching
by the way im not an mgtow
I really don't see any point in being in a relationship, at least at my age.
Most girls are this age are incredibly stupid and the same with guys.
I really wouldn't mind being single all my life, I already have ambitions for myself such as owning my own lamborghini (My GPA right now is impressive enough to go to Harvard which I plan on trying to do).
There's no IQ requirement to get to Harvard, you just have to have exceedingly good grades or have a parent who buys the college a building.
@GoodDogNigel, I know that that's why I never claimed I'm smart I just said my gpa is high lol
How'd I see an IQ mentioned in there?
This is why sleep is important kids.
If they focus on porn only, then the guys will have a different view on women. I don't know a single woman who acts the same as a porn star. The sex will be different to.
I don't think anyone should give up like that, loosing physical contact is not worth it.
Yeah I kind of feel like giving up. There is so much risk for pain, to me.
Just give up on the marriage part, but dont punish your dick dude. Get out there and chase girls, just dont settle.
Aaaaahhh-that is quite sad. Giving up on marriage, isn't that the entire point of dating to begin with? It is more realistic though, but it seems mindless to just go after girls for nothing significant.
These guys are the equivalent of hostile bitch feminists. Both groups have their heads up their butts.
And there is very little to be learned from inside one's own arse, n'est-ce pas?
Precisely!
Shit. That was funny.
Nice horse there, shiny white knight... Hopefully you won't fall off of that thing.
@NessMess I am no white knight. I call it like I see it. I see hostile women who I would not want to be near and I see hostile guys who I can't imagine being very successful with the ladies. If I was just trying to score points with the ladies, I wouldn't be talking about some of them being hostile bitches, but. . . if you still want to call me a white knight, that says something about you.
Just calling it like i see it m8.
I would suggest that by some of the replies that this issue is a problem as a solution. Traditional regular relationships are doomed and that is a good thing.
I encourage any person my age to persue money than relationships, but hey that is my personal statement.
yes we exist. dating is pointless. and we dont give a damn if they have an opinion about us... .
Doesn't seem that way given how much of a presence these guys have online. There seem to be 1,000s of different blogs and sites related to this.