What do you think of veganism?

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I mean many people follow that kind of lifestyle but do you think really they are over reacting in following such practices of not eating or even using products and articles that are made from animals, such as leather, or other items that are come from animals? isn't that a bit ridiculous. Im not talking about vegetarian as being vegetarian and being vegan are totally different things. Vegetarians at least they can consume eggs and other stuff that comes from animals, they are not that restrictive unlike veganism which nothing nothing they eat or use or cosume must come from an animal.

For me I find that being vegan is stupid just because they dont like the mistreatment of animals.

Earlier today I was having a conversation with 2 cousins and a friend of them and we were speaking about Vegetarian and Veganism and they agree with me being vegan sorry is a little dumb, because that is how life is created, that is how food chain it is. Animals eat other animals to survive, you dont see a tiger eating grass to survive, they eat meat, you dont see a cocodrile eating lettuce to survive. Food that comes from animals have proteins and nutrients that the human need to survive. A plant can't replace the real protein that comes from an animal in any way. Many plants sure have proteins or grains, but they are not the same and the effects on your body is not the same as eating the real protein that comes from animals. For instance if lentils have proteins and a vegan only eats that to get their proteins from it, at some point in their life, Im sure they will start to get tired of eating lentils and grains the whole time , they may want to eat other stuff.

Also I know is terribe and sad how animals are mistreated when they are going to kill them to get their meat from consumption, yes it is sad and terribel and they suffer, but that is the way life i, the human being need the proteins from animals to survive, is the life food

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chain, just as the same animals eat each other to survive, it is life circle.

Being vegan also is dangerous I was told by my cousin who works for the medicine field. She told me that if a person is vegan all their life there is a high percentage that they develop leukemia, because they lack of red cells in their bodies and sicne they have anemia for not consuming red meat, it is a chance to develop leukemia as anemia can develop in leukemia.

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Of course all excess is bad for a person like eating too much meat sure, but also not eating meat at all of any kind is also bad, just because poor cows, poor chicken, poor all animals. Food chain and life circle that is the way it is. Also I know that eat certain foods can prevent you from getting diseases such as cancer, but to the extreme of not eating anything that comes from animals not even ato use an item such as clothes that come from an animal is a total stupidity.

TheorionMage · Accepted Answer

The perennial running gag is: 'Vegan' the social metaphor for poor hunter. But more true than thought,
a reporter asked a devout Buddhist Monk 'why' his dietary stricture and the Monk replied: He had never had to chase a carrot.
Harsh reality is: EVERYTHING consumes SOME form of sentient life at some point.
Many humans elect to turn a blind eye.

A U. C. Berkley Psych experiment in the early 60's proved rudimentary vegetative consciousness in TWO experiments. In the first, the study found that all plant life responded with more vigorous growth in a harmonious classical music environment. In the second and more controversial exercise, a dozen Geraniums were kept in a laboratory under identical conditions. To set a baseline, several had leaves attached to a galvanic response meter with daily readings recorded. The entire class would tend the plants daily. At the conclusion of the study, members of the class drew lots; the randomly-chosen student was then instructed that they alone would enter the lab and with NO other humans present, was to uproot and violently destroy JUST ONE of the non-metered Geraniums in the present of the other plants. The next class, each of the class was to walk into the room of the remaining plants, one at a time and the galvanic meter's readings were recorded in the presence of EACH student. When the vegan Assailant's turn occurred, there occurred a intense response by the surviving Geraniums.

Subsequent forestry studies have confirmed in forest settings there occurs confirmable communication between trees and mosses measurable for MILES. The well-documented phenomena of the S. American telegraph vines.

As a Neopagan Catechist on every occasion I'm called to 'say Grace' I deliberately enjoin all about to dine that EVERYTHING on that day's menu had given up its existence that we might perpetuate our's.

talka20 · Accepted Answer

No disrespect to anyone but here are some things i wana say... im not that good in English so nvm if im not able to make u get my message

Carnivores have sharp teeth so they can eat meat n chew it n make it chopped in mouth... herbivores have straight teeth so they can eat fruits n leaves n such stuff n swallow easily... God gave humans both sharp teeth and also straight ones for both purposes so we can have both type of food

There is an argument which vegetarians or vegans use which is like animals get hurt and we shouldn't do that to them n they have life and family n emotions n they shout/scream/cry in pain... today's science tells trees n plants have life too n emotions n reproduction n family too and they also get hurt n shout/scream but those cannot be heard by us humans but they do all that so why eat them or use them for medicine n many many other life uses... just cuz humans can hear animals voice but not plants voice

Its fine if someone dont eat meat or whatever for their lifestyle reasons its not must to eat/try everything obviously but most of those logics dont make sense if you actually look by the eye of science or religions (many of em cuz I don't know bout all) which are given by vegans/vegetarians

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

I am pretty sure a vegan diet can be healthy for most people, never actually saw a study saying vegan diet/lack of meet is unhealthy. So I am really wondering what's with the leukaemia thing? You've got any links to research supporting that or something? This society for leukaemia even endorse a plant-based diet
https://www.lls.org/article/power-plant-based-eating :D
Anyway, people are allowed to eat whatever they want, and crazy many people eat like shit which is obviously stupid (but we enjoy it so :D ).. most Americans even eat so unhealthy that they get obese and/or sick from a bad diet. I think in most cases vegans have a healthier diet than the typical American.
Speaking down on people's choices like you do is awful to listen to I feel. Like with vegans who hit people in the head with causing murder and what not. Can try to change things on a society, which we obviously need. People on average eat way too much meet for their own good and for a balanced environment.

Amy10223 · Accepted Answer

No, I don’t think vegans are ridiculous, and I support what they are against. I am against the killing of animals so we can consume them. Many of these animals are poorly treated and kept in cages, including chickens. Imagine animals keeping humans for their consumption. Ridiculous sounding, right? But if the shoe was on the other foot, you sure wouldn’t want to be eaten.
As for furs, hides, leathers, that’s still killing animals for our luxury. A fox coat costs a lot of foxes’ lives.
I don’t disrespect their beliefs, why should I? They are at liberty for feeling the way they do, and you may have an opinion but it doesn’t mean you’re right also. Both my daughters are pescatarian and vegetarian. I don’t complain they don’t eat meat and I support their animal rights beliefs as well.

MORPHEUS_12 · Answer

Steve Jobs died a horrific death because he insisted on maintaining extreme vegan diet.

I have several acquaintances who are vegan and I just can not find anything in common with these people. I have tried and I just can not get close enough to these people to form any sort of lasting relationship. I feel like while they might not opening condemn me its like you can see them thinking it.

Wraith_Cemetery · Answer

They're incredibly annoying. Constantly shoving their beliefs down your throat. They love hating on meat eaters and say how we're evil but then they go and try to ruin people's livelihoods. Indigenous cultures like the Sami and the Inuit are greatly dependent on animals but they utilize the entire animal and nothing goes to waste. These pathetic vegans have attempted to destroy the livelihoods of such cultures just because animals are involved.

I come from a long line of farmers and merchants. Our farm had all sorts of animals and we treated them just like family. We knew them by name they knew us as well. Yes, sometimes an animal had to be slaughtered but it was done respectfully. Our diet also consisted of root vegetables and we only took what we needed. You can't call that evil. It's a far healthier way of living than just eating vegetables or just eating meat.

Animals die from far worse deaths out in the wild anyway. A lion will rip the throat out of a gazelle and it will die slowly from bleeding out. Farmers that care about their animals will be more merciful than a lion.

spuitkaas · Answer

Like do what you have to do and everyone is entitled to live how they want to live. From a medical standpoint, I don't think veganism can be healthy long-term for most people nutritionally and it's pretty much never without developing a weird relationship with food. You have to obsess over food to be strictly vegan and get the right nutrition and even then most of them don't get proper nutrition. So I wouldn't recommend. I like their motivation often of saving the environment and animals, but yeah I think there are other less extreme ways.

Phoenix98 · Answer

I don't agree with it I actually studied nutrition and, foods, diets, etc when I was becoming a personal trainer so I know better then to believe that a vegan diet is genuinely healthy for you and gives you what your body needs.

Especially when a lot of the vegans I have come across took a lot of vitamins and supplements to make up for the holes in their nutrition.

If your intake of food is so healthy and gives you everything you need then you wouldn't need to take all of that. Because you'd be getting it from your whole foods.

If you want to be truly and genuinely healthy in my professional opinion then you need a balanced diet containing all food sources, meats, dairy, plants, fruits, seeds, nuts, grain, etc.

It's the most efficient way to give your body all the nutrients it needs.

Vegans can be vegans I don't have an issue with what they do until they start trying to force their beliefs and ideals and how they eat on me, that's not ok.

sean1234 · Answer

The funny thing is that you could eat a cow for nutrition?, but then again cows eat plants, why not we just eat plants also for nutrition?

As a vegan, I'm far more healthier than I ever use to be a few years ago eating beef chicken fish... etc crap.

I eat plats to be healthy, oh and yes, I own leather stuff wear.

Anonymous · Answer

There are literally millions of people, especially in South Asia, who don't eat meat. About 30% of India's population doesn't eat meat. That's close to 300 million people who are NOT dying from any meat related deficiencies. You have no clue what you're talking about, you don't have to eat meat to survive. It's perfectly fine to admit that you like eating meat and don't feel like quitting it but please draw the line at spreading misinformation.
Also, just because something happens naturally among animals who don't have a concept of morality, doesn't mean we have to follow it. Tigers eat meat but they also don't have a conscience; you do. Don't dismiss it.

ZackBan · Answer

I don't care about them but they seem to have a problem with me.
They not only do not eat meat they also judge anyone who does.

That's where I draw the line. You can believe what you want to believe but do not assume you can impose anything on me, that I respond to in kind.

Wester1967 · Answer

I've been vegetarian 25 years. 2 of those years I was full vegan. Those were the healthiest years of my life so far.

I love how inflation is now wrecking meat heads' fetish for torturing and killing animals for all their lame reasons. Whine about it some more or get back to work slaving for "the taste". Go eat rabbit food for all I could care you insufferable dorks.

mobiusforniner · Answer

Not for me. But for those who are vegan, it's like they consider themselves super human. Kind of like its portrayed in Scott Pilgrim Meets the World.

jahaims · Answer

Go for it if want to. Most people do not understand the food chain. I get it if it is because they don't want an animal to die I get it but if it's for the environment pretty much anything outside of a garden in your own yard is just as bad for the environment.

Cubus · Answer

For me it kinda doesn't make sense, because plants are also living organisms. They also "don't like when you eat them", so it's a bit of hipocrisy. And you have to eat something, otherwise you would die. Besides 2: there are some nutrients plants won't give you, as there are only in meat. And if you wanna eat laboratory made "veganic ham" for example then it's full of chemistry and is not really healthy.

Ad_Quid_Orator · Answer

Everyone talking about how what people eat should be their own businesses seems to have forgotten why the world's in the sorry state that it's been these past 2 years:

nllqlb · Answer

if ur vegan u can't eat dino nuggets…. who would want that?

Apple1996 · Answer

I'm vegan and never had any issues from it. I don't eat that way cause of health reasons or for the animals. Just do it cause I don't like the taste of meat and I'm allergic to milk and eggs so it just works out best for me to be vegan

Kaneki05 · Answer

Don't morally agree with discriminating plants between animals when both are living things. Therefore the idea of not eating one but the other is immoral to me. Life should just be Food is Food no matter what life it kills.

SweetDumplings · Answer

I thinks it's a real commitment, and I absolutely love how dedicated these people are to their diet although they do have fake vegans who eat what they're not supposed to when nobody is looking lol

whosnumber1 · Answer

I hunt and fish for my own meat. I grow my own veggies and typically eat farm to table when I can. I will usually always buy organic. I do as much of my part to be ethical and sustainable. It makes me feel more connected to the food I put into my mouth and the world around me.

if they feel as strongly about being vegan as I do about how I eat then that's good enough for me. as long as they don't pass judgment like I'm some horrible person for eating meat.

Outofthegrey · Answer

I think it's a very strange religion and their followers need a little less gumption in attempting to convert people.

ArrowheadSW · Answer

Too me it is a bit extreme. And those people tend to look unhealthy to me. And I've known some who are very overweight. Now it makes me wonder what they are eating to be overweight. I've heard of some eating a lot of pasta products to "fill up".

Assi2k · Answer

I’ve been vegan now for 5 years, almost 6. Before then, vegetarian for a year or so.

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