Do you believe unmarried men / women over 40 are "leftovers"?

[aliali8]

30s are a prime time for everyone to get married. So are those that are still single over the age of 40s considered left over men and women that nobody else wants?

[Exterminatore]

If they haven’t been married by then chances are high nobody saw them as a good choice.

[aliali8]

Really? How confident are you about that?

[Vivaldi]

As a 30 year old who looks 10 years older, I've always been quite unfit for relationships.

[Exterminatore]

I’m fairly confident. There are of course mitigating factors.

[annie6815]

Are you going to judge your decision by “ what nobody else wants”? Lol. You put a lot of faith in others to make your decisions

[Dave9623]

That's a shallow point of view you got there. Contrary to what you may believe, some people do get married later in life and become happy with the person they end up finding. And some choose to be single. Not everyone needs marriage to be fulfilled.

[Amazingworld92]

Simple no one wants lose 29 year old pussy. I prefer 18 year old chicks woman my age all have lose pussy and r useless for sex.

[art84]

I am 36 years and old and if I wasn't married by the time I turned 40. I would just see it as I wasn't meant to be married.

[romeo_and_cats]

Cause guess what because probably your parents did xD

[romeo_and_cats]

@Amazingworld92 are u sure? Did you see me fucking you

[TayTay21]

Right. Because that's the only reason a person wouldn't get married.

[romeo_and_cats]

There must be a reason why you have more dislikes than likes, maybe your answer lacks credibility or does everyone like to believe into that sort of creepiness.

Majority of parents that I've met, asked, they married around at age of 40s. It's pretty common age and probably your parents did too

[Exterminatore]

Look folks this is fairly simple. A woman bearing a child past the age of 35 has an increased risk of delivering a child with health problems. Yes, I know people get pregnant and deliver healthy children older than 35. It’s just the risk increases over 35. Most people want children.

Most people find it ideal to be married before having children. Yes, I know people get pregnant out of wedlock, but most would prefer to be married first, then have children.

Yes, there are exceptions to every rule. All I’m saying is if a person who desires to be married hasn’t been by age 40, there’s a good enough chance that nobody is seeing them as desirable to marry. There seems to be a lot of butthurt over my statement. I suppose it’s hard to accept it if nobody is willing to commit to you on the level of marriage.

Think of it like grade school sports. The kids who suck get picked last and the only reason they get picked at all is because they can’t be left out, or are needed to fill spots. In pro sports, the best athletes get drafted and contracts the rest get cut. In love and marriage the ones who are perceived to be of the highest value tend to get perused for marriage. No one is looking to settle really. Everyone wants the best deal for lack of better terms they can get. Yet as people get older they do tend to settle for less than ideal. If nobody was willing to settle on a person by the time they were 40, maybe just maybe they aren’t a good catch in a lot of cases.

[romeo_and_cats]

You're wrong again with that statement. My father married first time at 23y old it lasted 3 years, second time at 31 with my mother it lasted 5 years, third time 44 it lasted 9 years. Don't you see the difference? 90% of my friends in the school and neighborhoods in the 90s have parents around 40s to 50s! I don't know where did you picked this pi-ka-boo philosophy but for sure you lack experience to compare school sports with real life events!

I've first married with 15 years it lasted one year. But from nowadays I had much more woman wanting to marry me than comparing with my 20s. Girls don't want to marry little boys, they want real man! Who can stand and support the family and the baby.

I don't know know anything about this pi-ka-boo story

[Exterminatore]

Guys that have a lot of girls that want to marry them don’t need to tell other guys that. I’m not impressed and I don’t believe you. I guess women are just knocking your door down asking for your hand in marriage huh? Maybe I’d be defensive too if no one wanted me.

[Floppy2112]

LOL! You don't think logic and reason will have any effect on this discussion do you? You are right, but you are a man, logical and reasonable. The fairer sex does not function on that wave length.

[romeo_and_cats]

For me it seem that you're not having enough sex in your life thus explain the lack of sense in those comments.

Now we going to get into a pikaboo fight.

I can have sex take a picture and share if I want. I can share as well in a website where the main subject here is about relationships, sex and asking.

I'm here since the beggining of this website and was one of the most voted persons in the top 10 MHO thus if you look my answers I got more than 200-300MHO. So hell yeah I can share!

Then third your opinion doesn't turn water into wine, so if you're not impressed it's your problem.

Then 4th no girls come to our houses knocking and asking to marry. Don't you think that's completely childish. Now I really believe that no girl had ever asked you or talked about the subject thus the lack of compromise int those answers and the lack of understanding about the subject.

5th assuming that you think just because I've written a large text, replying to all your bullshit that I've become defensive. I do answers bullshit like this because in a space where community exists an inexperienced guy like you may harm others by telling them lies, others may really struggle about the relationship, thus your shit comment will not help. Which is wrong!!

I do work as relationship adviser!

I've experience and helped hundres of others peoples. It's not of any help those types of comments, which leads to fear and bad inner thoughts, towards those one who wants to marry at any age, it would be more easy if people like you just shut for a second, then learn from real experiences rather than theoretical extinct thoughts, so others wouldn't rather listen and adopt such limiting beliefs.

[Exterminatore]

I wonder what it’s like being so insecure.

[romeo_and_cats]

Just look at the mirror

[KrakenAttackin]

@Exterminatore. Well said. People who think "women past 40 and not married = no big deal" are kidding themselves. Again, these women were either too "picky", are serial daters (cock carousel), or have serious psychological issues that make no man able to stand her for any amount of time.

When you read the 40+ dating profiles of women they portray themselves as "I love watching sports, want a strong man, am feminine and kind" etc, etc. etc. So these women do understand what men want but in the last they simply have not cared, they want what they want with no compromise. Laughable.

[romeo_and_cats]

@KrakenAttackin nice point! But those you're talking are narssicistics controlative behavior, it shouldn't apply to everyone.

[Floppy2112]

I don't. Then I would have to be that insecure to know what it's like.

[Vivaldi]

@aliali8

Are you having a hard time believing that I am only 5 years older than you? I am 30 years old.

[aliali8]

@KrakenAttackin I'm just gonna give you and the rest of the guys on here some life advice. If you plan on hating on women that way, stop dreaming about having kids or building a family. Be prepared to spend the rest of your life alone or divorced. Because no woman would stick around a condescending woman hater regardless of how great your personality is.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi I have no interest in dating guys over the age of 32/33. And especially not 35 yr old guys chasing teenage girls.

[aliali8]

@Exterminatore I can tell you that around 75% % of the time, there is always a reason why someone is single into their 40s. And usually the reason is not a good one. The most common one is being picky or having unrealistic standards.

[aliali8]

@Exterminatore Being extremely picky could be indictive of bigger personal problems in their lives. Usually its an unconscious mental issue that needs to be worked on.

[Exterminatore]

@alial8

Certainly being too picky is an issue. I also think not being able to be in a relationship or not really being compatible with anyone, really, are also factors. Possibly due to trauma or psychological issues.

I also think a good enough amount who are single at that age, haven’t been previously married but want to be are seen as not a good choice by others as well. Some people simply don’t hold much value as a marriage partner.

Single moms for example. A lot of guys won’t marry them. They don’t want to get into a situation of baby daddy drama and being saddled with the responsibility of someone else’s children. They’re often seen as damaged goods.

I’d think people with an STD of the incurable type would also not be seen as desirable by both sexes. I won’t even sleep with a person who has a known STD let alone consider marrying them. Diseases like Herpes or AIDS are highly contagious and incurable.

[aliali8]

@Exterminatore

[Certainly being too picky is an issue. I also think not being able to be in a relationship or not really being compatible with anyone, really, are also factors. Possibly due to trauma or psychological issues.]

Usually when you see people who fail to maintain relationships, its usually not due to trauma. Its usually do to their own personal flaws as a human being.

For example , a recent guy I went out with was:
ignorant, arrogant, can never learn anything new because he thinks he knows everything, cannot admit it when he is wrong, he always has to be right. When he has a conversation with people who hold opposing perspectives, he never lets them finish their sentence (because he always has to be right). If you point out why he is wrong, he will always play the blame game. He can't take criticism without accusing you of bad things. he's self centered and wouldn't care about those who he has nothing to gain from.

These are all things that will ruin a relationship in the future. Unless you can find someone who can tolerate all this BS.

People hide their true nature during the beginning of the relationship. Its not until years go by , the honey moon phase disappears, where you will catch the first sight of who they really are.

[romeo_and_cats]

@aliali8 after coaching 12 years guys game, this this and still is one of the main issues guys have. They cannot shut up in their minds. Always thinking they're right, they always against woman, treating woman like a devil monster that one must defeat, so it's not only ridiculous that guys compete against themselves is abominable that they fight against woman. What's the purpose? Then all they cry that they still alone. And when woman say things is because they're trying to help the guy, instead guy play games, act childish and do not listen THEN I ask: If this girl was your girlfriend how do you think you would treat her day to day? Would you just play the reliable guy when actually all the flaws show always

[Unit1]

They're either very smart, single by choice, anti marriage or unfit for relationships.

[Vivaldi]

The last one. I am quite unfit for relationships.

[Unit1]

Thanks for the most helpful opinion

[Amazingworld92]

Woman r complaining

[Teenybop]

@Amazingworld92 no actually I read a lot of butt hurt from men...

[aliali8]

@Amazingworld92 men love this question.

[AmandaYVR]

You don't understand life.

In your simplistic summary, men and women pair up, and stay together for the rest of their lives, end of story. You are not taking into account is death, a divorce rate of ~ 50%, familial obligations that take people abroad or need prioritizing, work opportunities that require a major upheaval that the other partner doesn't want to undertake, personality changes, realizations about incompatibility, and all the myriad ways that paths end and diverge.

Previous generations stayed together longer - sometimes, often, in unhappy relationships. (Why is a complex issue. I'm not getting into that one right now.)

At any given time, you take a slice of a person's life, and they may be in a relationship, have just ended one and need some time to recover alone before they want to get back into the fire, not want to be with anyone ever again because of the horrific last experience they had and would reject someone's interest, AND those who would like to be with someone but haven't found someone yet.

Open your eyes. Life is not black & white.

You've got 10 years before your fertility (and therefore instinctual desirability by men) falls off precipitously. In 3 years if you're not married, you will be lagging the worldwide female average currently. Judgement is very easy to pass out. No one is immune and everyone ages.

(P. S. I've been married 20 years and still with the same man, so don't think that I'm defending myself, personally. This is about your wayward thinking.)

[aliali8]

There is no such thing as a woman’s biological ticking clock, because If a woman really wanted children , she would have children. If I’m unmarried by 35, I can easily have kids. What makes you think a husband is needed?

[aliali8]

And speaking of “leftover men and women” I wasn’t referring to divorced folks. I’m talking about the ones that no one has ever wanted to wed

[aliali8]

By the time you are 38, most folks already had multiple relationships. So if you dated 10 people and all ended tragically? wouldn’t this mean that you can’t attract the right people? Or there is something wrong with you that ruins relationships? There’s no way you can seriously date so many people and yet not find one you can actually hold out with.

Or you can have super high standards that nobody can ever reach. This itself is also a huge flaw. It’s not a good quality. It shows there’s something wrong with them to have such high standards

30s is the prime time where people know it’s time to get married. The chances of you marrying in 40s is slim compared to your 30s.

And lastly I wasn’t saying EVERY single person over the age of 40 is undesirable. But MOST are

[AmandaYVR]

There is absolutely a biological clock.
There are many charts on this:


But anyway, we made some assumptions here (as is necessary to do with limited information/text) so as you're talking about "the ones that no one has ever wanted to wed" that is more specific, so it eliminates some of this. Although I would still add, some people have chosen not to be with others. It's not necessarily only that they were not chosen.
I do somewhat agree with some of your points.
Fyi, I asked this q a while ago. You might find the results interesting:
Of the people you know who are in 'happy' or 'successful' committed relationships, to what do you credit this? ↗

[aliali8]

There is absolutely no "biological clock". Because genuinely I am not worried about not being able to have children. If I wanted to have kids, I can have children. If I am unmarried before 40, I am guaranteed a child. Biological clock is only for women who do not understand that traditional ideals such as marrying just to have a family is all just a complete joke.

It is my life goal to have children. And it doesn't matter if I marry or not in order to accomplish this goal.

Women can have children. Men can't. So if you're a single man at 40, no wife, no kids. You're gonna have to sit there, wait and beg until any woman pays you any attention so that you can have a chance of having kids. Only problem is that most women are not interested in men in their 40s.

[aliali8]

Does a woman's "biological clock" really exist? ↗

[aliali8]

I just don't understand why fertile 34 yr old women worry about not being able to have children. When they can still have a child.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

No because that would be presumptuous to assume that they're single because noone wanted them..
There can be many reasons someone remained single/never married...
Just because they're not, don't automatically mean noone every wanted to... We should always get to know someone and their story instead of making assumptions or thinking of them as "leftovers"...

[OlderAndWiser]

Ever had leftover spaghetti or soup. It's even better than the first time around. I love leftovers!

[Teenybop]

That’s how my potato soup is. Mmmmmm leftovers.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Teenybop Yeah, leftovers are fun, but not a serious meal.

[jennifer_bloom]

I think men can be attractive at any age. I know 80 year old men who look better than some 20 year olds I talk to. There is only one issue which is that attractive older men usually have a reason for being single and many times it’s unrealistic standards or unfairly high expectations.

[aliali8]

There are no 80 yr olds that look better than 20 yr olds. It’s just that you probably have an abnormal attraction to old guys

[Apope16]

Yes I do. Especially if they have never been married. I typically assume that they have a mental health issue that is driving guys away from pulling the trigger. A huge red flag if they are in their late 30s and have never had a relationship longer than a few months. It is an even bigger red flag if a woman lists her longest relationship as "long distance". To me that means she can only maintain a friendship and sext from far away because boyfriends can't actually stand to live with her or be intimate with her in real life.

Women in their 20s and 30s have horny guys around them all the time. Even ugly women or fat women. Ugly women get sex and fat women get sex. So if a girl loses her virginity in college at age 22 years old and she has sex with say 3 guys every year... That means by the time she reaches 40 years old 20 years have gone by and she probably has had sex with anywhere from 25 to 50 guys. Just guys ramming through her trafficking who knows what if she isn't clean.

Sex creates bonding and attachment. So it naturally begs the question if a guy is cumming inside her what is wrong here? Is it really that so many of these guys are assholes and dump her or cheat on her or is it really HER that is the issue? Because a respectable woman that has sex with her man on a consistent basis should not have much trouble keeping one long term.

A guy's best bet with a woman over 40 years old and single is to meet a woman who has truly lived a unique and interesting life. So I would either have fun with a woman like that just for sex. Or I would seriously date her with intent to marry if she has kids or has been married. So I'd look for the following:

-She has been married or demonstrated that she can attract a long term relationship
-She has children or she never wanted them. (A woman who has always wanted children but has never had them by 40 or older is someone who couldn't get a guy to be with her and consider her as motherhood material to give a seed to).

Unmarried Men:

I think with men it is similar. I think men grow more attractive with age compared to women. But you want a "most interesting man in the world" type of man if he is unmarried and single at age 40 or more. So you are looking for a reason why he hasn't settled down. Does he have a unique job? Has he been traveling the world? Is he military? LIke why hasn't this guy settled down?

Also, I would ask the guy what his longest relationship is. If he says "im not goo at relationships" or he says "I dont know a few months..." That is a red flag. You are looking for a guy who has in the past committed to a woman and has learned from the failure of trying to work things out. Maybe he is a widow. Maybe he was married for 7 years and divorced and for another 5 years has felt emotionally hurt by marriage. That still makes him normal. Maybe it is a situation where he has been married multiple times. A bit risky but it explains the gap of things. Maybe he has had children and has been so busy as a co parent for 10 years that he hasn't settled down yet.

There needs to be reasons or they seem very low quality to me.

[rjroy3]

Highly individual.

For women if I know they've been married and widowed and she never remarried. That type of woman is in her own category.

If a woman was divorced by her husband she goes into a similar category assuming she kept herself together and wasn't a nagging, overweight, antagonistic trainwreck like many become.

For those who left their marriages, were never married or the trainwrecks that the husband divorced. These women to some degree i consider leftovers but for different reasons.

It's not that nobody wants them in most cases. It's that the men they want don't want them and they're both unwilling to change so that they qualify for the guys they want, while at the same time not "settling" for all the guys that will have them as they are. These are the girls that complain about there being no good men out there or that men are the problem in dating today lol. You've definitely heard these women. And likely they fall into this group. Just never got the ring, or if they did they divorced him because he wasn't "good enough" in some way.

As for guys it really falls into. 1. Does he want to get married? 2. Has he had opportunity and chose not to? Or has he never had opportunity but definitely wants to be married?

If he wants to be married, but truly never had opportunity. Then he's a leftover. If like many women he has had opportunity but just not with women he would want to marry then he's not a leftover. Because men are the decider for having a relationship.

[aliali8]

the unmarried people referred to in this question are people who have never been married. but have been through multiple relationships.

[kitty71]

I never heard that word "leftovers" So I guess im one of them but a very ripe leftover. HAHA. SO what is wrogn of being still single over teha ge of 40? What is wrong is that a crime? Not everyone believes in relationship kids and marriage. Marriage and dating and relationship are not for everyone and also you have to find that special person that fits with you that have chemistry, communication, respect, honesty and maybe not all men fits that ina person description, So you have to marry or date beause society tells you to do so and that is the norm? I mean Im not judging the ones who marry and have families and kids, good for them maybe that was their goal in life to form a family and marry. Some have that dream others do not have that goal.

I used to have a crush who was 47 and he died last year. We were never an item or dating or have a rela relationship but he liked to have fun. He once told me he never wanted to get marry or much less have chidlren, he enjoyed being single and be free of all drama and issues taht develops when you are seeriously married or seriously dating someone. He loived being single and he was over 40

[aliali8]

the average person who is over 40 usually had multiple failed relationships. And its the reason for all these failed relationships that makes the community question the quality of these people.

[kitty71]

Not necessarily people over 40 had had many failed relationships. For instance I had never had any boyfriends in my past or had relationships or even dated any of that I had always been single my entire life and now at my age whjat I want is no drama of a relationship of a serious one much less have kids anyway is a risk too much responsability and the world as we are living now is too difficult to bring kids into this world and now relationships are not liek the ones many years before now are disposable plus other stuff.

[aliali8]

@kitty71 I don't think you're the typical norm for a person over 40. I can say that overwhelming majority of people over 40, should have had multiple relationships

[Anonymous]

This is one prejudice mindset that really gets under my skin. Unless you fit into this age category then shut your 25 yr old judgmental trap.

You have no idea what people have gone through in their lives for the better or worse. Maybe you will get lucky and settle down with someone decent. Maybe you will get married then divorced (most people say that’s worse than being long time single). Maybe you will never get married.

But whatever choices you make in your life is your f*cking decision and no one else’s. Personally I have only dated one person in my entire life who I could of potentially settled down with. But we met when I was going through a difficult phase in my life (I was giving up a serious hobby/dream for a steady professional job). She was the right person at the wrong time. If she would of met me 3 years later I would of bought a ring. Everyone else I met since then was NOT wife material for múltiple fundamental reasons (ex had been admitted to a psych ward before).

But if the girl I’m talking about might of not been wife material. She went down the radical feminist path after we split. Despite being still young and attractive the last I heard is she gone lesbian, has lots of cats and is involved with all the far leftists protests. I’m glad I didn’t marry that.

Bottom line is you have zero idea what it’s like to be in another person’s position in life (ESPECIALLY a man’s position). I have cut out both family, work colleagues and friends because of all the nasty, harmful and prejudice comments I’ve gotten for being long time single.

I want nothing to do with them. I don’t attend weddings, family gatherings and even company Christmas parties anymore because of this crap.

Just shut up and mind your god damn business. Just because I’m almost 40 and still single doesn’t mean I’m “weird, creepy or gay”. It doesn’t mean I’m “unfit for a relationship”. Maybe I just haven’t found someone decent to settle with.

[aliali8]

well if you dated 10 people and all the relationships ended tragically. people would question your ability to maintain relationships. and question why would you attract so many bad people.

[Opinion Owner]

And I could just as easily judge women who date abusive/violent assholes right?

And what gives you the right to “question” and judge me? What did I ever do to you or anyone else?

Maybe I got a late start on dating for complex reasons you will never understand.

Although I lost my virginity in HS and many flings in my 20s I didn’t get a truly serious girlfriend until I was 32. This also happened when I moved out my state (which is a horrible place for bachelors). I finally found someone very compatible.

But seriously why the hell do you care if older people are single? Other then dating a guy 40 plus I really don’t see any other benefit for you getting wound up in this topic.

Are you considering dating an older guy? If not, then I see no other reason for you posting this question other then to get off on insulting people. If that’s the case you are just a cunt and a bully.

[aliali8]

why would i be interested in dating old guys if I see them as "left overs"? are you trying to get your hopes up? i know old men like you would do anything to sleep with a young woman.

[aliali8]

people do judge regardless if you like it or not. And you judge too. Everyone judges.

[annie6815]

To the guy above.. I agree... you can only find you within you... keep looking if only that’s what you want. The girl with the cats,,, hey if she’s happy. The guy who replied to you sounds like an ass who bases his decisions on the judgments of others and clearly is not hapoy

[Opinion Owner]

You just proved my entire point above. This entire post was written so you can get your jollies on putting other people down.

No it’s NOT alright to judge people who never done anything to you. 20 years ago you probably would of put up the same kind of post putting down gay people. 60 years ago you would put another post putting down minorities. But those groups of people are no longer fair game so you have to switch over to another group of people who are.

However you will one day find yourself in this category. So be careful what you say. It sounds like you are currently 100% confident that you will get married before 40. I have no idea what you look like but attractive women with shitty personalities do unfortunately have this power. But it’s a very fleeting power. You won’t realize it until it’s gone.

I actually feel sorry for you. You must really not like yourself very much to put this much effort into antagonizing people who did nothing to you. This is just compensating for a very deep insecurity. If you are truly happy with your life you wouldn’t waste time posting this crap.

[annie6815]

If this Alia continues to think this way then she’s going to do what any guy asks og her cuz she cares what others think which means she will have a long cruel haul because her judgment of others will backflip on her

[aliali8]

@Opinion Owner, Its not right because it hurts your feelings, not because there is no validity to it.

[JSmuve]

I don't think they leftovers. Perhaps hidden secrets. Too many people think dating is like some sort of conveyor belt of people where every person goes through every possible candidate, like a quality control person, to determine their suitability for a relationship. But who has the energy for that? Many people fall through the cracks because of reasons that have little to do with their desirability. Life gets in the way, people are more closed off today than ever, opportunities are often missed, differences in priorties. They're not leftovers because no one wanted them, they left over because life didn't break for them like it did for many others.

[AmandaYVR]

Well said.

[guesswhoseback]

MHO right here. To bad she choose the (wrong) one already.

[aliali8]

haha excuses people make when they know they have mental issues but refuse to admit it. Play the blame game, its always someone else with the issues, not you

[AmandaYVR]

@aliali8 You just sound arrogant and have no sense of humanity.

[aliali8]

@AmandaYVR If you had any humanity at all, you wouldn’t be on a misogynistic run website called GAG for so long.

[AmandaYVR]

I do not believe it's misogynistic-run. I've seen no evidence of that. (If you knew anything about domain names, or marketing, or online behaviour, you would understand why it is called GAG.) It's a platform and people make things what they are, what society is.
There's lots of shit guys on here, but there's lots of shit girls too.
JSmuve is not one of them. While not shutting down and blocking all different voices, I surround myself with good people, and I have found plenty. But I do see you barking a hell of a lot of judgement on this topic here.

[JSmuve]

@AmandaYVR Don't mind her. I think she's just projecting. I don't think she has much/any luck with guys and probably thinks that she's going to be leftover at 40 so she's basically going on the offensive and saying people over 40 aren't desirable to hide the fact that she's not really desirable, herself. It's understandable, but misguided.

[aliali8]

@JSmuve Does it matter if I don't have a man by 40? I would already have kids by the time I hit 40. Like I said, its not my life goal to get married. But it is my life goal to have kids. Everything mentioned in my question were facts, no lies at all. Its my question hurts your feelings

[aliali8]

@JSmuve You desperately want to believe that older folks are just as desirable as younger folks because it hurts you too much to admit that you get uglier as you get older. Yea, women have eyes too. I'm not attracted to balding men with white hairs and wrinkles ok?

[aliali8]

@AmandaYVR

just take a look at one of your most popular questions on here:

Are women after 35 useless? ↗

Who do you think has greater success in dating, younger or older women? ↗

What do you think about old bitter men who try to "groom"/train naive very young girls (at the age of 18-21) since women their age can't stand them? ↗

I guess you just like to open your mouth when men are bashed but decide to go with the flow when women are bashed.

[AmandaYVR]

What the fuck are you talking about. None of those are my questions, nor did I comment on any of them. You're blocked, bitch.

[aliali8]

@AmandaYVR I never said you asked the questions. Those links were just proof that this is a misogynistic website.

[likelyOK]

No I think it happens more with men bc they are told by society that they have to have all their ducks in a row before even being in serious relationship which is BS but they buy in. People use to grow together but I think now everyone thinks you have to be a complete package before marriage. Also a lot of men are so focused on their career relationships take a back seat. Only if he was playing playboy or something all his life would I think he was washed out or leftover, but that still sounds kinda cruel.

[Anonymous]

If your not married in your 20s it gets harder

when you hit your 30s. Theirs a reason. People are still single, theirs somthing wrong with them as to why the can't hold down a relationship.

If their single past their early to mid 30s theirs a reason for that.

The longer you wait the smaller the pool of good men and women their is. Because they get taken.

and your left with mostly leftover/ rotten apples no one else wanted. Sooner or later.

While everyone normal is married has kids, familys, a house...


Mid to late 20s. Is a good time to get married.

[Teenybop]

I’m new here. I find it amusing though how many men say women are left over until the shoe is on the other foot. Then it changes to- oh we need to get rid of that language. Nobody cares how they treat others only how they are treated. Sorry boys, what comes around, goes around.

[aliali8]

I completely agree with you.

[Dazed0N0Confused]

I think that's a bullshit line. Marriage is a farce and the only significance it holds is in regards to your taxes & legal privileges.
So many people are divorced by time they're 40.
I'm not saying that marriage isn't a beautiful thing to share, but making it more important than it actually is & calling people "leftovers" is ridiculous.
Why do I have to marry my SO to prove that I'm their woman? To prove my love? I don't believe in marriage, but to each their own.

[aliali8]

because marriage is the official stamp of commitment. It shows that he will be committed to you regardless during good times or bad times. Boyfriends just stay during the good times then dump you when things aren't rosy anymore

[Dazed0N0Confused]

Marriage doesn't mean shit. People still cheat after they're married. People still get divorced because they get tired of the person. Commitment isn't made with marriage.

[aliali8]

In my eyes, a man is much more likely to cheat as a boyfriend rather than a husband.

[gotc147]

Marriage has tax benefits if you're living together, otherwise it's just a contract with the government.

[aliali8]

@gotc147 the contract also shows that a man is willing to commit. Unless you just married for tax benefits, then thats different. A boyfriend is more likely to cheat than a husband. Your choice

[MCheetah]

No, but society generally does. And to be fair, many women at that age who were never married, never in a long-time relationship are generally single for good reason. Men nowadays are fed up with the bitches in their 20s who then "have their fill of fun" and start looking to "settle down" by 37. Not all women are like that, but MANY are, nowadays.

[aliali8]

Well if you're sick of these hot young women looking for their fill of fun, why not go for an older woman who is actually serious about getting married? its just that men like you are shallow af. You can't see anything more than "looks"

[MCheetah]

1. I never said I didn't already go after more mature women, but I don't want women over 45 who more than likely have kids in high school at that point.
2. I see you did nothing to excuse these women for being awful to men, then crying "where have all the good men gone" some 15-20 years down the line, as if they're not guilty of anything.
3. I don't want to get married anymore, anyway. Not in today's climate where most people get divorced anyway.
4. I'm far from shallow. I'm not even attractive enough to be shallow.
5. Stop assuming shit about me with your bitter-ass Karen responses that make me think you aren't really 25.

[aliali8]

well you sounded really bitter that these hot 19 yr old girls aren't willing to marry you and have 5 kids by the time she is 25. If you just broaden your dating market a bit by dating someone a little older and more ready to settle down, you wouldn't sound so bitter.

[MCheetah]

I already said "no" as literally my first word in the response. Furthermore, I said I don't even want to get married, and personally, I'm done with dating altogether and not even pursuing women anymore. I was merely telling you how OTHER men commonly think.

If you want a VALID reason why men don't like to deal with women over 24 though, it'd be annoying "Bad Mind Reader" bullshit like this, where you try to put words in my mouth I ever said. Nobody has time for this fucking bullshit to a question YOU asked people.

If you want to start arguments to strawmen I never said, go on Twitter.

[aliali8]

Actually , the worst women to date are girls who are 18-22. These are the fickle, immature, non serious types who like to play mind games, don't know what they want, and go into relationships just to alleviate their self esteem issues.

The age where women are in their best selves are 23-33. This is the age where women are serious about relationships. They are more mature, less likely to play mind games, know what they are looking for in a man, emotionally stable, confident/ secure

its just that men like you don't have anything else on your minds other than sex and hot bodies.
So if you're single aging dude, bitter about how some 19 yr old girl won't have 5 kids. Well I don't feel sorry for you.

[Deimy]

I have a strong intuition that I will be that one. It is ok. People we were born alone and we will die alone. Don' t worry. Love yourself. All mens that I liked or loved tried to use me, hurted me, played with me. I felt like a victime but they are suckers. I also think I am too smart for some boys, cause I am always learning, I speak in 5 languages. Ok I will be alone so I would play songs about lonely people and will shake my ass.

[COMMODOREII]

Cool 5 languages? 😄

[Deimy]

@COMMODOREII yes

[TomBham]

I can speak 6 languages + understand derivative languages and I am PhD student... I'm nearly 'leftover' age by asker... In China it is 27, if I remember it right...

[aliali8]

@TomBham yes this did originate from china.

[Dragonpurple]

I don't believe they are left overs, however personal experience from people I know is that often they aren't putting themselves out there.

I know its hard to do, but I have several female friends over 40 who never got married, planned too but went to college, started working and its hard for someone to come into your home to kidnap you to go on a date. All they do is work, home... I know some men the same way.

I will say though the older you get the less pool of people you got.

[aliali8]

I think its less about putting themselves out there. Its the fact they been through so many failed relationships by the time they hit their age which makes people question their ability to maintain relationships or attract quality people.

[Dragonpurple]

At an old job, my boss who was 45 at the time (this would be back in 2002 or so) went to college, started working and by the time I was hired, she had never even had a boyfriend... just work home, work home. She said she always planned to get married and have a family but it just never happened. I thought really, how would it happen if your either working or at home.

Your right though that the older people get the more they worry about things, I call this people get more set in stone and less compromising. Those are not good traits when trying to blend lives.

[aliali8]

there's no such thing as a 45 yr old who never had a boyfriend and never had a good reason for it. If someone is single over 40, there usually is a BIG reason for it. It could be due to lack of social skills, pickiness, never had the desire to date in their younger years.

[Anonymous]

Around 26 is about prime age to get married if you're gonna raise a family.
30's is already waiting pretty long.
Anyone can get married in their 40's, but it's later than usual to be changing diapers and staying up all night with crying babies.
Also having babies over 35 starts to increase their chances of having health issues.
All the information is available online.

[aliali8]

26 sounds a bit early. I don’t know of many people that young ready to have kids

[Opinion Owner]

A woman is in her prime child bearing and fertility years in her 20's, early 30's.
Lots who wait too long have trouble conceiving or even finding someone to marry.
I got married at 26, had a child by 27.
It doesn't mean people have to do it that way, but biologically it's smart to have kids younger.

[aliali8]

Hun I was born to a mother who was 37. All my cousins were born to 30 something yr old mothers. None of us are fucked up.
Your child will suffer more being raised by parents having financial troubles and lacking in life experience.

[Opinion Owner]

Okay I guess science is wrong.

[aliali8]

It IS healthiest to have kids at 26. But all I’m saying is, you’re not gonna have the money , emotional maturity or life experience to raise those kids. And many 26 yr olds still want to live their youth before being tied down. Imagine being upset about having lost their young adult years simply due to a pregnancy

[Opinion Owner]

I can't relate.
I partied in my teenage years.
I fell in love and moved in with a woman at 21.
We both worked and had tons of sex and enjoyed our 20's. I never regret not sleeping around.
I'm happy that we got our shit together in our 20's, got married and had kids.
No regrets.

[aliali8]

Most of us do not party in our teen years. we focus on doing well in school , getting into a decent college so we can make enough money to support ourselves after college. And secondly you do not have the money to go on vacations with your friends in high school, you do that when you are a working adult after college.

And after the kids come out , you won’t get to enjoy yourself anymore. Forget the girls night out or crazy random vacations with friends.

Usually it takes years of experience to develop the skills to make high income to support children. New grads straight out or college do not tend to make very much

[aliali8]

Cost of living is also getting increasingly expensive. Most families in America are broke living paycheck to paycheck. Housewives are no longer sustainable. Both mom and dad need to be working to support the family

So I think it’s very unrealistic to expect young 26 yr olds to be supporting kids. Especially when they haven’t been out in the workforce long enough to make the kinda money they need to make in order to support a family

[Opinion Owner]

I did it.
If you honestly think that your life is over when you have kids, then you shouldn't have them at all.
You don't understand what a gift they are and how they add to your life.
You just enjoy your time with them.
We knew that we wanted to get married and have a baby in our 20's.
It was just common sense back then.
Medically, financially because we had jobs and a decent house and emotionally.
We wanted to have as many years with our kids as possible.
We didn't look at life as something you live before you have kids.
We wanted them.

[aliali8]

I think you’re too immersed into your own life to actually give consideration to the fact that the average young adult in 20s have student loans debt. You need to realize u raised kids in a different generation where everything was cheaper and more affordable. It was easier for u to get a job. Cheaper to support a family. In your generation, it’s possible to get by without a college education. But it’s impossible to support yourself without higher education.

Kids are a blessing but why have kids when you aren’t emotionally or financially ready? Just cuz u didn’t have kids at 26, it doesn’t mean u will never have kids.

[Opinion Owner]

I had a kid in 2007 it wasn't that long ago.
I'm still raising him.
I'm just trying to share my experiences as a 41 year old who's done a lot already and lead a different life than you. Maybe it can help some younger people reading this to understand that there's benefits to having kids in your 20's. The idea that you should just travel and party and focus on your career isn't always the best strategy.
It's your choice, but I meet a lot of women in their late 30's desperate to get married and have kids because they never made it a priority when they were younger.
I feel bad for them sometimes, but it was their choice.

[aliali8]

There no benefits to having kids in your 20s other than to give them a smaller chance of birth defects or autism. Because reality is most people in their 20s do not want kids and are not financially prepared to raise children. Is it better to have a kid later in life so that you can provide it a decent upbringing or should you have a kid when you’re 25 and feed your baby subpar food or worry about when your kids next meal would be?
Other kids get to enjoy luxuries that your child won’t have. I grew up in a very poor family and trust me, I missed out on A LOT.

And just because a woman focuses on her career , it doesn’t mean that she can’t have boyfriends or ever date, I’m a career lady in my mid 20s and I’m actively dating,

Or if I don’t end up finding a husband , I can always have kids on my own through a sperm donor or a decent guy friend, who also wants kids. You really don’t need to get married to have children.

[Opinion Owner]

Like I said, we had different lives.
Maybe some people would want my situation and maybe others see value in yours.
The difference is that you have theories about your future, whereas I've actually done the things we're talking about.
My child has everything he needs, I always worked hard to support my family.
We weren't poor because we were in our 20's, I got up every morning and went to work like a parent does. Maybe most 20 something's these days aren't ready, but it's not that hard either.
It's just called growing up and taking care of your responsibilities.
You can do it your way, I already did it my way.
Agree to disagree.

[aliali8]

Well hun most people in their 20s do not have enough money to raise kids. You were just one of the few lucky ones who can make enough money at a very young age. Kids are very expensive.

Give some consideration to what most 20 something yr olds are like before you force all of them to have kids.

[Opinion Owner]

Most of my friends had kids too.
Having kids in your 20's isn't a new concept.
I'm sorry if you're in a bad financial situation, but that doesn't represent all 20 somethings.

[aliali8]

Its actually pretty uncommon for people to have kids in their 20s especially if you live in large modern cities. The only places where it’s common for people to have kids in their 20s are in poor small towns in the mid west where people get married super early and cost of living is extremely cheap. In larger modern cities , cost of living is much higher and people are usually more educated. And like to date several people before they settle down in their 30s.

So I say it’s a difference in culture. But the average age of marriage in the US is 27. So average age of parents are likely gonna be through 29-30s.

The average age of marriage in my city , NYC , is 30-32. So really , it boils down to a difference in culture

[Opinion Owner]

Well I live in Canada.
I wouldn't call my area poor by any means, but I think the values are a little more traditional than NYC possibly.
I remember my friends pressuring me to have more kids so they can play with each other.
That's when I had to look at our finances and be realistic.
I mean there was girls in my highschool that were pregnant right after graduation.
They didn't waste no time.
I lived with my girlfriend for 6 years before we got married so we were ready.
Sometimes I think kids these days don't factor in the reality that you need to meet a person and couple up for a long time before you're ready for the big steps of marriage and kids.
If they stay single too long isn't like serious procrastination.
They may end up a single parent using a sperm donor.
Not the worst thing in the world, but pretty fucking hard to raise kids that way.
Just my opinion.

[aliali8]

I think that if you marry too early , you don’t get a chance to date around to find the right person. So if you’re willing to get married at 25 so you can have kids at 26, be prepared to be divorced by 36. It’s been proven through research and statistics that couples who marry too young tend to divorce later in life. So your kids will end up with divorced parents too.

[aliali8]

You’re also really not giving yourself many options by settling for the first or second girl you date. Sometimes it takes years to find the right person. You don’t just graduate from high school and expect to be with the right person.

[Opinion Owner]

It's a gamble on way or the other.
You either end up married for 15 years and divorced at 36, or like those unmarried desperate 38 year old women that hit on me at parties.
At least I have a kid and got to be married.
They travelled, fucked a bunch of randoms and now live with cats.
That's life.

[aliali8]

And the reason why women use sperm donors is because people in large modern cities do not believe in “settling” for someone that’s not the ultimate perfect fit for them. This is why people in modern cities date around many people before they marry. They don’t marry for the sake of just having kids. They marry because they want to find the person who makes them happiest. If they fail to find the right person, they just have kids

But I think you’re more likely to need to settle, if you’re a man. Because you can’t have kids without a woman

[aliali8]

It’s quite sexist and arrogant for you to assume Those 38 yr old women are desperate.

If they were so desperate , they wouldn’t have divorced in the first place. Not all single older women want to get married either. Some women don’t want to get married. Some women don’t even want kids

If a woman truly wants a family, she can have one. Women can give birth. No need to get married just to give birth

Have you seen the divorce rates for the us? A whopping 46% of all marriages end in divorce,

[Opinion Owner]

I could adopt.
I didn't settle either, she was hot as fuck.
I still haven't found a woman as beautiful as her.
You should just get your first cat now and get a head start on your future. 🐈

[aliali8]

I don’t have to get a cat because I don’t even want kids right now. I’m a youthful young lady with ambitions to chase , hobbies to discover , friends to laugh with, handsome young men to date.

Why would I give up all of those things just so I can marry a man who I don’t really care about just so I can have kids?

I can have kids in my 30s with no problem

If you married your first or second girlfriend, there is a high chance you settled.

[Opinion Owner]

You're gonna find out the meaning of "Settling" once you're in your 30's.
I don't mean to be rude I'm just trying to help you young lady.

[aliali8]

You only live your youth just once in life. Once your youth is gone , it’s gone forever. That’s why they say that Your young years are the best years of your life.

My mother gave birth to me in her 30s. My grandmother gave birth to my mother in her 30s. All my cousins have mothers that birth them in 30s. So don’t tell me that I should birth right now cus I wouldn’t be able to birth in my 30s. Men like you are misogynistic and have no respect for women.

[Opinion Owner]

Not true.
I took very good care of my wife and child.

[aliali8]

There is a difference between settling at 25 and settling at 35. If I settle at 35, I know I have explored all my options so settling is the only choice I have left. If I settle at 25, I haven’t explored all my options. If I get married now, I would throw away all possibilities of meeting the right person a few years later. I don’t have to settle because I’m young.

[Opinion Owner]

You don't understand yet that there is no "Right one."
There just a lot of very good ones that you could connect with and possibility have children with.
While you're young and hot is the best time to attract them.
Once you're in your 30's it will get harder and a lot of the great guys like me that you will meet already are divorced, have kids and don't need to do that again.
Your options will be slim pickings.
Those 38 year old women I meet are definitely very forward about wanting marriage and kids, but I'm like "Sorry, I already did all that, what were you doing?"
I just want love now, I have everything else.

[aliali8]

I rather settle in my 30s rather than marry a man I don’t love at 25. And I’m ok with being single in my 30s. And I can assure you that I would already have children by the time I reach 38.

[Opinion Owner]

Good luck.
There's no reason you can't find someone to love at 25, you're just too focused on yourself right now.
True love requires sacrifice.

[aliali8]

I’m pretty sure it’s possible for women in their 30s to find dates and get married. I have seen many women in my family get married in their 30s. The funny thing is old men think they have a shot at hot young 25 yr old ladies,

why would we go for an ugly old man, out of his prime , when we can get handsome young guys? The oldest men I date is 33.

[Opinion Owner]

That's fine.
I date women from 30 to 46 years old.
I actually still look good for 41 and get messages from 23 year olds, but that another issue.
I honestly hope the best for you.
If you truly want children I hope it works out.
My son has been the biggest blessing of my life and I wouldn't change any of my choices.
I sincerely hope you can say the same at 41.

[aliali8]

I can definitely love someone at 25 but it might not necessarily be a romantic connection. If you’re gonna tell me I should just marry any random dude that I get along with at 25 years old, don’t be surprised if we end up getting divorced at 35.

[aliali8]

Well you’re lucky you can still look good at 41. Because most men look like shit by the time they hit 40s, I know there are some women out there who have an old man fetish where they like wrinkles and sagginess and weight gain that comes along with aging. But it’s pretty abnormal and uncommon,

[Opinion Owner]

Divorce happens, even to the best of couples these days.
What the romantic movies don't tell us is that people change throughout the course of a marriage.
What they want can change.
You may meet the perfect guy, but you have zero control over whether the marriage lasts or not.
That's something important that you will find out.
Just enjoy your relationships while they last, they don't last forever "Hun." 🙂

[aliali8]

If I ever get married , I plan on staying married forever. I do this by finding the right person that I am compatible with. It’s gonna be a companionate marriage where we take care and look out for each other. Over time we will learn to love each other through years of partnership and caring for each other. This is the Type of marriage that I will settle for if I do not end up finding romance. I value family over romance. There is a security to having a family that I don’t get by being just a single mom. But regardless of Watever happens , I’m not afraid because i am a career woman and I can afford to support my kids. I don’t need a man to raise a family. But of course having a husband to help around the house will make things easier

Only problem is I’m not attracted to balding men. And a lot of men in their 30s tend to grow bald. So It might be a good idea to do all of my dating right now with young guys who still have their hair, I just really hate balding guys

[Opinion Owner]

I still have a full head of dark brown hair at 41.
The thing about you that you're not acknowledging is that you will age too.
Those bald guys might not even want you later on.
You may not be be attracted to t hem and they don't want you either at that age.
That's rough.
I do hope you figure this stuff out.
My life is good because accomplished everything.
I just had a head start on you. o
I'm trying to give you some wisdom, but you think you know it all at 25.

[aliali8]

Well if you’re a balding guy in his late 30s , you’re not gonna be able to get a hot 26 yr old. So who else would be willing to date you? Other women just as ugly as you are
You can’t be picky if you have no options.

But I don’t see any validity to anything you’re saying. Telling youngsters who cannot afford to raise children , that they should have children. telling young women to settle for someone they don’t love at 25 rather than to settle at 35. Completely disregarding the possibility that she can meet the right man at 30.

I don’t think anything you said makes any sense

[Opinion Owner]

I think you are stubborn.
That's okay, we all live and learn. 😊

[aliali8]

I think you’re too stubborn to admit what you just said doesn’t make any sense. It can’t get any more obvious.

[Opinion Owner]

Alright you win.

[Opinion Owner]

Nice talking to you. 🐈

[aliali8]

🤣 that’s what I like about talking to old people. They r not afraid to admit they r wrong

[Opinion Owner]

That's what I like about you.
You're still a kid that thinks she has it all figured out.
Youthful idealism is charming.

[aliali8]

well there r far more advantages of having kids later in life than too early in life.

[aliali8]

And it’s funny how you call me a kid yet pressure me to have a baby. Would you trust a “kid” to be a parent?

[Opinion Owner]

That's false.

[Opinion Owner]

You don't want to be a "Leftover."

[aliali8]

Like I said i have no problem being a “left over”. I can still have a family being a “leftover”. But if all else fails , then just settle for a husband who is also a “leftover”

[Opinion Owner]

If that's what you want?

[aliali8]

I don’t plan on marrying until my early 30s. If I were to settle I would do it by 34. Then I will have my kids at 35. But for right now I will focus my attention on looking for mr right.

[Opinion Owner]

Settle by 34?
How romantic. 😅

[aliali8]

There is no romance for you to force me to settle at 25 either. What makes settling at 25 more romantic than at 35? You’re the one who told me to give up on finding mr right so I can give Birth as early as possible

[Opinion Owner]

It's not about settling.
It's about making the choice to start looking for the most attractive, serious guys that you can attract at 25.
Finding someone you can seriously fall in love with now and reproduce with.

[aliali8]

You don’t need to be super attractive to get a husband. My mother married at 35. 3 of my aunts married in their 30s too. I think you’re probably just shallow. there are definitely men out there who would take a 30 something yr old as a wife.

[aliali8]

Nobody wants to get married at 25 either especially in large modern cities. It’s simply out of the norm for us.

[aliali8]

I am looking for my soulmate , not the richest most handsome man on earth. I’m looking for someone who can make me the happiest , not a charity

[aliali8]

Once you experience what true love is , you won’t ever trade that person for absolutely anything else on earth. I wouldn’t sell my husband for a million dollars

[psychoticanimaIIover]

Lots of people have no interest in marrying or even partnering up. Casual sex is the way of the future. Monogamous relationships are monotonous.

Those who are actively looking for a boring life and are over 40 are probably just picky or have personality issues.

[TayTay21]

Most people are leftovers to most people, meaning most people wouldn't choose to marry most people. Finding someone who you're actually meant to marry is rare. The reason marriage is so common is also the reason divorce is so common: most people get married to the wrong people for the wrong reasons.

[Screenwriter]

Nah. Some people focus on their careers early on and don't marry until later. Look at George Clooney: he didn't marry until he was in his 50s. His wife was in her late 30s or early 40s herself.
The other side of the coin is, they never found anyone they were quite suited to.
Better to be alone than to be with someone you truthfully don't belong with for the long run.

[legalboxers]

I am not a left over, by any means. I am returned and broken material. From my heart being broken 10 times over, including my mind and soul by the last one. We are far from "leftovers". We have love to give, we are amazing people. As a guy, I dont move to relationship to relationship. I focus on me. I got other goals, and if Im not in a relationship (like the last one who didn't want me to goto law school) I can now focus on what I need.

[Sarahr123]

If I am 40 and unmarried it will be by choice. Also I have to add that people who have never been unmarried in their 40s and 50s are sometimes extremely intelligent and never found anyone to marry who was on the same wavelength as them.

[shade_19]

NOPE...
It's one choice to marry and not marry
I mean yes there r people who want to be married but don't get anyone like that but that can be at any age
There r people at 25 who want to be married but don't get anyone, 20yr plds who r still single and any age
But saying people of 40s being leftovers is stupid

[girlzruleboyzdrool]

What a horrible thing to say
I'm 39 and married. If I was single, I would home no one had viewed me as such and I definitely don't view others as that.
You could have a guy that's been married and divorced 2 or 3 times. Everyone has a reason.

[aliali8]

do you realize that subsequent marriages are more likely to result in divorce? its because these people are not fit for marriage which is why they keep divorcing. But yes, a man who keeps divorcing is a bad seed. It is a HUGE red flag.

[girlzruleboyzdrool]

I've been married for 15 years and I think it's people's mindset. There never used to be so much divorce. People have less empathy and do the work on things. Everyone wants the easy way out

[aliali8]

I think it has more to do with people having issues rather than simply not working on things in marriage. Because a man who has been divorced 5 times sounds unstable compared to someone who has been just divorced 1 time.

Its like a resume. If you found a job applicant who had quit their job 5 times over the course of 5 years, what makes you think they will germanely stay at your job?

If a man has a history of abusing 3 of his wives, what makes you think that he won't abuse you if you marry him?

Someone's history tells you a lot about them as a person.

[aliali8]

type error:

Its like a resume. If you found a job applicant who had quit their job 5 times over the course of 5 years, what makes you think they will permanently*** stay at your job?

[girlzruleboyzdrool]

It depends. One time his wife could have cheated and the next him or perhaps he married twice to two horrible women. But my overall statement is I do not think people 40 and up are leftovers. That might seem that way to someone younger. But then we see people as age 25 as kids still.. or at least I do

[aliali8]

@girlzruleboyzdrool Im not saying every single person over age of 40 is a bad seed. I'm just saying you're much more likely to encounter a bad seed dating at 40 than dating at 28

[girlzruleboyzdrool]

I disagree having a lot of friends and a sister in that age bracket, who date. My sister is a prof and teaches nurses. She didn't date a lot because traveled traveled and became a university instructor. She got married in her late 30s to a guy in his 40s. I have friends ages 27 and up. I can speak on our experiences. Your opinion is valid, of course. For like minded, ignorant and shallow people. In fact a lot of people have different reasons. I also have a friend who married and her husband died in a car accident. She's 39. She newly started dated a guy who's the same age and a mutual friend of ours. He was single because he helped his family on their farm bc his dad was sick.
You live in a bubble

[aliali8]

Nobody said every single person after 40 is low quality. It’s just that you’re more likely to find low quality men at 40 than at 28. Nobody said it’s impossible to get married at 39. But chances of finding someone grows slimmer as you age

[girlzruleboyzdrool]

Where's your experience personal on that?

[aliali8]

From my personal experience, usually I find single older people tend to have a big reason why they are single until their age. There is always a reason

[girlzruleboyzdrool]

Yeah, there is. And it doesn't make them leftovers or unwanted

[aliali8]

Not all of them are low quality. But you’re bound to meet more low quality people dating at 40 than at 28.

[girlzruleboyzdrool]

🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣😒🙄

[Synikal]

Honestly. I'm single by choice at this point. I've had no problems getting with someone. I'm fairly confident in my looks and with a good job. Just the women in my are either don't come out, taken, still married and still trying to mingle, or the dregs of society. I'd rather be single than deal with the latter of the four.

[aliali8]

sounds like some sort of social awkwardness disrupting your dating game. Your dating sounds non existent.

[Synikal]

Wouldn't say that. Been asked out by the same types and even asked out, been on dates, etc. Taken dudes gfs. My problem is in just tired of the same stuff. Simple.

[aliali8]

"Just the women in my are either don't come out, taken, still married and still trying to mingle, or the dregs of society."

Sounds like u just can't get any quality women.

[Synikal]

Yea. I'm glad you're a parrot. I mentioned that just under different wording. Pay attention and not just repeat.

[aliali8]

well that WAS what you said, in your own words. I don't understand why you're complaining

[Synikal]

It's called a statement. Not a complaint. I really don't know why you're still talking to me at this point. I'm not feeling the vibe you're giving off either. You have a good night.

[Floppy2112]

Sounds like your perfect for him then!

[Anonymous]

have you ever stopped to think that maybe just maybe someone that age was in a lot of awful and abusive and horrible relationships or relationships that didn't work out for one reason or another. Maybe you should think of that next time instead of being such a judgmental asshole about it.

[aliali8]

Maybe there is something wrong with them that attracts terrible men? Or maybe they are attracted to men who treat them badly? Or maybe crazy women are all that he attracts? There must be something wrong with you to attract so many bad people

[Opinion Owner]

no there might not be something wrong with that person maybe just people don't always show their true colors at first. in fact nobody shows their true colors for the first 3 to 6 months when you're with somebody they put on a fake personna until you find out what they're really like

[aliali8]

there's no way you can date 10 people and every single one of them turn out to be terrible rotten people unless you attract bad people

[Opinion Owner]

then you really don't know much about the real world kid

[aliali8]

Not saying every single person over 40 and unmarried and bad seeds. But You’re much more likely to encounter a bad seed dating at 38 than at 28

[SofiSin667]

I know several men and women that are almost hitting their 40s and are still single because they focus on their work and don't go out. They're attractive, successful, respectful but just don't have the time to actually get to know someone and if they do it doesn't go any further than the talking stage (getting to know each other).

[aliali8]

But if they do want to get married, they would be social rejects right?

[SofiSin667]

Not at all. Reject would be more like... nobody wants to get to know you at all and even then that's impossible because if you actually want to... you'll find someone.

[aliali8]

but don't you think if you were so great as a person, you would already have settled down by 40?

[aliali8]

you've had so many long years to date, how could you still be single?

[btbc92]

That is very much untrue. That is the lies society makes so everybody assumes you not worth getting to know because you not sexual with everyone. They really do want to. But people are too selfish to bother. Other people don't friendships, they want sex. So all they can have is friends, and even some friends aren't even friends because they want to drain your life away if they aren't the right kind of friends. It is hard to develop relationships with horny generations that doesn't care about actual relationships. Courting is no longer a thing anymore except for the so-called religious. Even that gets mocked. I mean really. I have been single ALL my life. The biggest scorn if refusing premarital sex and then told you to deserve to be alone. Meanwhile, everybody is having sex with everybody and their broken down and psychologically screwed up. Being attractive is not the basis of a relationship. Being successful can work and contribute, but most people don't give a damn. They don't want success they want sex, pleasure, and fooling around. Even with that, they don't "respect" you or themselves. Being respectful nowadays is boring. Please think before you speak. This is why so many people are cheated on and can't stay loyal to one person. The talking stage doesn't exist. You either have a friendship, dating or not. People don't want to talk, they want sex. Period. People rather work than used and abused and told lies. It's who your dating that doesn't have any interest in getting to you by talking and creating intimacy. You need compatibility and talking and knowing each other is how you do it.

[SofiSin667]

@btbc92 You seem hurt 🤭 😂. What has happened to you has nothing to do with them because everyone has their own thing going on. With that in mind, don't apply your personal experiences onto others because it's irrelevant to them.

[btbc92]

I am hurt at the world. You lack innocent, love and you use and hurt people in the name of so-called love. What your talking about has 0 to do with anything and it is not the healthy reality healthy people, couples, and families share. You are not understanding of what those serveal men and women hitting 40 are going through and I promise you it has nothing to do with work and not going out. They do not trust the modern dating garbage people do. They may be attractive, but they are still PEOPLE. They are successful because they put it effort and work in everything that they do. Something the majority refuse to do, and it causes jealousy, envy and there's scorned and mocked for being different. And they are respectful because that is their morals. Something again, most do not have today. They have plenty of time. But they will NOT WASTE TIME with unqualified people. Simple as that. And you're shamed for being an anomaly to the system. You need to wake up. It is a lab and slave system on this planet. If you cannot produce more workers your useless. That's the way of the world. And they bucked up against the system, but slaves working to death. That is not what typical everyday people desires. They want everything handled to them and is a me-centered world. Everything is backward. What is right is now wrong and what is wrong is considered right. Their tired. Not lacking self-awareness. When is evrybody else going to wake up? When at your grave? Because that's where it's heading. See, you haven't experienced it, so you are not a target. You won't understand that because you're desired. They are only desired for the things you already give. Stop giving and watch how alone and hated you will be to the world. Once your eyes are willing to see, you'll ask yourself what you've been doing this entire time.

[btbc92]

It's not a personal experience. It's the reality many of you refuse to see because you choose to be in your own world instead of taking the chance to explore and observe the worlds of others. No, everybody is just trying to survive and live life. You cannot assume everybody belongs in a box, because everybody operates on a different scale, level, stage, and degree than you. Every 24 year old is not the same. I wasn't like that at 24. Even at 8, I knew because my eyes were open to see. You cannot see this on a physical level you will be deceived. This is a psychological and SPIRITUAL level. If you are not spiritual, you will lack the discernment and wisdom to know. Worldly knowledge profits nothing if you bear no fruit. Their baring fruit, just not with people who will take advantage of them and not anyone to share it with. You cannot share that with everybody. Instead of assuming you need to look deep inside of yourself and ask how did you come up with judgments that hold no merit or truth. You do not know these people intimately to give such a judgment.

[aliali8]

@btbc92 I am not saying all men and women over 40 are social rejects. There are probably some of the that are still quality people. But most are probably not high quality

[btbc92]

A reject is a reject. You either born for the system, or you'll be aborted out. This is why so many commit suicide, get bullied, etc. They're aborting you out, not just aborting the baby from the actual womb. I was born knowing this. And trust me as I say, you question self as you question your reality. I saw things people don't believe until it was too late. I had people shame me for my abilities to know things. I can safely tell you as a now celibate person. If you are not sexually inclined and willing to take bad risks, they will blacklist you and make sure you die alone. I had men tell me no man wants me for not having premarital sex, refuse to masturbate, watch porn, etc. How I am a rejelous prude, and everything under the sun. How they only asked me out because they saw I was pretty and nice. If they would have known I was this or that way, they would have NEVER bothered. They don't want to be a friend, they want sex and experience. Have too many partners, you're a hoe. Many will not want to marry somebody who has many partners, to begin with, or you reach 30, they go younger. It is damn if you don, damn if you don't. My friends done all of that, and have many exes, ex-husband or wife, and are now SUFFERING. This world is backward and nobody wants to get to know them. PERIOD. They lack patience, kindness, compassion, things that is essential now. The times have changed and many are suffering and getting either sick or killed just for pleasure. What does it benefit? None. You either try to survive or die. I am not dying on an account of a man who refuses to be a man, treat me right or do his job. You women want them, go get them. Don't cry about where are the good men. Very few are left and their suffering because they refure to do what everyone else is doing. They're not weird, their SMART.

[Vivaldi]

You look at it from a woman's eyes, not a man's eyes.

There are a lot of men who women don't look at...

[btbc92]

I got news for you @aliali8, people don't want quality. They want quantity for their own personal gain. Plain and simple. If they want quality people have to be quality and earn it, not just expect to have it. People don't change, this is why they keep getting the same type of people, same results. You know how many men try to get to know me and they don't because they lack the desire and patience to know me? So many. I am a friendly, keen, and gentle person. But I will not tolerate being bullied, shamed, used, and abuse and have a mouth to put one in their place. I was never liked by many people. And yet I survived and have the best people in my life because I stayed true to myself and follow God. People today aren't just selfish, their mentally ill. Many relationships and marriages would not suffer or die out had people had the wisdom and were taught of the things of God. Since so many don't believe, they are now left to their own devices, and what one reaps is what one SOWS. People refuse to work. Relationships especially marriage is not for everyone. And not everybody qualifies. You must qualify. You need more than what was listed. And you must understand what it takes to uphold a union. Just because they may qualify, there aren't ENOUGH QUALIFIABLE PEOPLE. There aren't ENOUGH.

[btbc92]

@Vivaldi Man or woman. Everybody is suffering. You men are too sexually inclined and this is why you have no partner.

[btbc92]

People take this as games, and this is why life forces them to learn the hard way. These people know that to some degree or they don't have suitable partners to desire that life. By the time they may find that they're too hurt to believe that they can. Because many now convince you into it and still unhappy or unsatisfied, or they can no longer handle "baggage". Think wisely before you invite another in your life before you held responsible for somebody else's blood on your hands. It is that serious. And I find it offensive people think this is a joke or a toy. I may be scared, but through harsh trials and lessons, I have learned to be diligent and remember no matter what happens, God is in control. And if nobody likes it, they need to take it to him. Not me. I only pass on the message. When you have a higher calling you'll be alone to have that personal relationship with God and to grow. Singleness is a time of personal growth and learning. So that way, if a relationship is for you, have more to offer and you grow with your partner together and you foster a union that teaches, influence and inspire CHILDREN. Remember, all of your choices are being watched. Any move you make, you influence children. Be careful of your choices.

[aliali8]

@btbc92 people date around so they can find out which one is the right person to marry. It’s called testing the marriage before you marry this person. Dating a Quantity or people is what leads to meeting the quality person.

[btbc92]

And it because of dating around is why we have such a high divorce rate and so many people unhappy. Stable couples were at least friends first, build one and courted. You cannot find the right partner by dating around and expect stability. Not only it is reckless, but it doesn't work for a lot of people. You don't need to date around to find the right people, it's about DOING what is right from the beginning and you will find that partner. You pick one and you get married. You cannot t going around testing anything or else, why need love when you can easily get what you want for free elsewhere/ Marriage is about learning and growth. You're not going to get that by dating multiple. There is quality around by knowing and picking. That is for those who don't know what they want and others get hurt in the process. What your doing is wh so many people are unmarried over 40. You answered your question. No stability by yo people and you hold no remorse for who gets hurt. When couples married for 50 years they didn't waste time. My friends married at 18-24. So what are the rest of you people doing? They're having kids while debating between marrying Tom, Dick, or Harry, and yet you still can't forget about Bobby while he's screwing Nancy, Palina, and Sabrina. And yet they don't want you back, because you went from Alex to Thomas, Jacob, and Jackson. Do you mean to tell me you don't know how to pick quality partners? Then what are you people doing screwing around with every person you get into dating with? Do you people not know sex is a marriage and marriage is all about having sex? You want to test drive shows you have no love, nothing to offer except what I had said: heartache and disease.

[btbc92]

I'll tell you why you cannot find those people. Your not a quality person. Period. Quality people get paired up eventually. If you are in the right place, right time, doing what is right, you will meet that person. most of you don't want them because they're not to your physical liking and what you want. That's why. And when you get them, you can't keep them. I've been single all my life studying people. What you're saying, no offense, are excuses. And it proves you fickle, not serious, and a waste of time. What do you people have to offer? The leftovers aren't neccessary the unmarried. The leftovers are you people who hop from dating to dating, relationship to relationship person to person. Because you have all of this experience, yet can't do anything with it except compare and contrast people who just want to be with you. Not be told and compared and shamed for lack of what you want. That is not a relationship. That's shopping at a mall. This is why I'm glad I never dated. I am nobody's bag of chips.

[aliali8]

@btbc92 high quality people tend to be paired off eventually. Shallow people tend to bounce around from relationship to relationship because they date for looks and money. Or if the shallow people who do marry , they will only divorce in a number of years.

You are more likely to encounter low quality men dating at 35 than at 26. The search will only get harder and harder

[btbc92]

@aliali8 No offense. What makes you think you're not one of them at 25? I see that all around me. And nearly 90% of people on this site are just that. Not quality.

"high quality people tend to be paired off eventually. Shallow people tend to bounce around from relationship to relationship because they date for looks and money. Or if the shallow people who do marry , they will only divorce in a number of years." Again. I am near 30. I can safely tell you even shallow people end up with the partner they want and have over 30 years of marriage. You people are dating WRONG.

"You are more likely to encounter low quality men dating at 35 than at 26. The search will only get harder and harder" Please tell me a nonvirgin man who had X amount of partners, don't want marriage at 18, don't want to wait for marriage to have sex, skip you for other women, dating many partners and then come to me at 21 to say "... I should have listened to you"? You people are low-quality regardless of age. Age is not the reason. What you do IS. You know why? Because you think your too young you don't have to take anything seriously. A 35-year-old has a better chance than somebody at 26 who just wants to fool around. As I said. My friends married between 18-24. They already knew what they wanted and wasted no time. My friends recently got married at 27 and now have a baby. They've been friends since teens and college, liked each other for years, dated for about 3, married by 3 years, have a child at 4. Again, what are you people doing?

[btbc92]

No. They bounce around because of what you just said: " people date around so they can find out which one is the right person to marry. It’s called testing the marriage before you marry this person. Dating a Quantity or people is what leads to meeting the quality person." This is a contradiction. How can you say only shallow people do that for money and looks, when that is exactly what you do anyway with no real merit to even have stability in the first place? You need money to live and raise a family, to have some stability for the marriage because you need to pay bills. It is a choice in this life. Looks have 0 to do what we are talking about. We are talking about people who are not serious about dating and marriage from the get-go. And those who claim they do don't pick the partner they need because they feel they don't have to. Age doesn't hold you back from doing what is right. If marriage would have been legal at 13, I would have gotten married. You have between 16 and 18 years old to get legally married. You can't wait for sex, you don't want to wait, then when you have it you're stuck with the wrong kind of person. What your doing is improper, but you call it religious. Guess who's profiting and benefiting? Those who stuck to the rules and understand what marriage is and isn't. My friends did just that. They didn't shop around. They already KNEW. Now they have families. And never understood why I never had that. They understand now because they see how I get treated by people. I told you, you're doing it all wrong. And it's not helping you. We judge you by your actions, not your words. If your not married with no kids, how can you tell them something they know and people won't do? I know what it takes, when are men going to wake up and stop doing what they doing and they would have a wife? They don't want marriage. So neither am I whoring myself to get a man. I have my worth and my dignity.

[aliali8]

@btbc92 that’s kinda true most people do not marry the one they loved the most. They just marry whoever they are dating at the right age to get married

[Anonymous]

No, I think marriage isn’t something everyone feels they have to do. I did not get married until I was in my forties. I did not plan to get married ever. I did not feel that it was a must do for me until I fell in love with my spouse. I dated a lot with several offers of marriage. I just didn’t want to give up my freedom to up and move when I got the urge to do so.

[HeyMikeyLikesIt]

Not left overs, but definitely slim pickins! And at that point you gotta think she’s almost out of time to have kids if y’all want that or she doesn’t already have them and stuff like that.

[aliali8]

there's no such thing as a woman running out of time to have kids. If she truly wanted kids she would already have kids by the time she turn 40. Men just sit there and wait and beg for a young woman's attention , as they turn old and ugly, their chances get slimmer and slimmer as time goes on

[HeyMikeyLikesIt]

Well there’s this thing called menopause where you are out of time lol

[aliali8]

i would have already have kids before menopause. On the other hand there are 55 yr old men still begging a 35 yr old woman to give him kids. But she ain't gonna give that ugly old man the time of day.

[HeyMikeyLikesIt]

If he’s rich she sure as shit will lol

[aliali8]

yea how many guys would have that kinda money to get a hot bimbo at 55? you're never gonna make that much money in your life time.

[HeyMikeyLikesIt]

When I was in law school young girls in their 20’s were intrigued by wanting to date a guy who has his life together, a good career, a house, savings, nice truck, and health benefits lol now I’m not into young girls like that but there’s a ton of them out there

[Floppy2112]

There's no time limit on having children? Yes, there is, it's called menopause and you will either go through it or die, those are your only options. I sense a lot of hostility to older people, you will be eating those words one day. Because you will either get older or you will get dead, there are no other options.

[Floppy2112]

I am sure somebody will knock you up and then run like hell... So yeah, you'll have kids and several fathers.

[aliali8]

@Floppy2112

The reality is that the older a man gets, the less likely he is to have children. Once he is still single and unmarried by 40, it is unlikely he will ever have kids. Women typically do not tend to look for old men to have kids with.

"Empirical evidence has also accumulated in support of women's preferences for older men, and as you might expect, the data often overlap with those data supporting men's preferences. As this sample of Conway-Beam and Buss's (2019) review suggests:

Cross-culturally, women report wanting partners who are (on average) 3.5 years older than them.
In online dating, women make the first contact with older men at a greater than rate they do younger men.
Marriage records show that women are marrying men who are older than they are by about 3 years."

www.psychologytoday.com/.../what-we-know-about-age-gaps-in-dating-love-and-marriage

[Floppy2112]

Holy crap lady you talk A LOT! I bet no poor bastard can get an word in edge wise. I am not sure what you wrote, but I am certain it's deep.

[aliali8]

@Floppy2112 well there's a difference in what you like to say and what the statistics say.

[Vivaldi]

A rich guy at 55 goes for young women at 20.

A 35 year old woman would be too old for a rich guy at 55.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi I'm just gonna be honest with you right here. In real life, no 20 yr old girl would find a 50 yr old attractive. Its just single old men with no dating action on here , love saying in order to make themselves feel better about being old.

In real life, 50 yr old men could only dream of dating a 35 yr old woman. But the typical 35 yr old woman have no interest in them. Even women in their early 40s do not want 55 yr old men.

We are talking about reality here, not some gossip on GAG about how men get hotter at 60 than at 29.

[Vivaldi]

55 years old famous, rich guys are dating 20 year old girls.

[Vivaldi]

If 20 year old girls date rich men at 55, then those rich men won't settle for a woman at 35, who would be too old for their tastes..

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi and what makes you think you will ever get that rich? There’s no chance you will make millions.

those 20 yr old girls actually don’t want to be with you. They are just having sex with you for your money. They aren’t actually “dating” you. But most normal girls would just use you for your money then ditch you for a younger guy to have a family with.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi take a look at Jennifer Aniston, Jennifer Lopez. They all dated until their 40s. Jennifer Lopez just married Alex Rodriguez at 50 years old. She has millions of men who Would date her. Ivana trump also married multiple men well into her 50s. Kim kardashian still looks hot as hell at her age of 38. Tons of men would be willing to date her.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi female celebrities will always have men raving about them. What makes you think only rich men attract women?

[PrettyPeach]

LLOOLLLL a 50 year old woman just got one of the richest man in the world (Jeff Bezos) to leave his wife for her... do i really need to answer that question?

[aliali8]

just because the richest man in the world fell for her, it doesn't mean she's high quality. Jeff bezos could be a terrible greedy selfish person who is only attracted to women that are similar to him. Wealth means nothing when it comes to personality

[PrettyPeach]

Honestly, we’re talking age here, you asked about age, and I gave you a fact about age. If she’s high quality or not, honestly I refrain from classifying people as objects. The age of a person doesn’t make them more “high quality” or less.

[aliali8]

Jeff Bezos was married for many years so he's not a left over. Leftovers are the ones who never married, never could maintain a relationships for more than 5 years.

[menina]

That's so cruel. No, I don't believe they're "leftovers". They might prefer to be single or perhaps they're not lucky. Plus, not everyone wants to get married. To most people marriage is still a matter of choice.

[pigoat]

I felt like a social reject since i was a teenager

Fucked up my social life having that mentality i had time to change and do something about it and i didn't

40s is coming and nothing i can do about it

[Vivaldi]

I am 30 but looks 10 years older.

Does it mean 40 came?

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi its probably not gonna help you attract more women

[MysteriousDarkness]

@Vivaldi
I find it funny that you are saying you look 40 but when people answer yiur questions and say you look in 40s or 50s you get defensive about it. You claim you can't look 40 becsuse you have blaick hair and a black beard. You contradicted yourself. To sum up what I said on one side of a coin you claim you don't look older than 30 but on the other side of the same coin you are saying you look older than 30.

[Vivaldi]

@MysteriousDarkness

I do talk according to the people on internet.

[Vivaldi]

There hasn't been one single person that thought I was 40 in real life.

But now we are on internet, and internet world is very different than in real life, that's what matters on internet.

It looks internet world is very different than real life.

[Vivaldi]

This man in the photo is also 30 years old but probably looks a lot older to the people on this website. Lol.

[guesswhoseback]

@pigoat I fall into the same boat BUT I found this has helped me:

1. Cut out toxic people (including family if necessary): I have taken lots of prejudice and verbal abuse over the years from friends, family and colleagues for being “weird”. There comes a point that there association is not a true beneficial relationship. At that point I’ll disassociate with them. If they ask me why I’ll tell them the truth. If I tell them the truth and they act dismissive or worse double down then I know for a fact I made right decision.

2. Volunteer. One of the best most rewarding experiences I’ve ever gotten in my life is helping people who are much worse off than myself. All of my mopey/depressive thoughts seemed to vaporize when I got see people in horrible situations but also the feeling I could do something to help them has given me a deep sense of contentment. Try helping homeless people, at risk youth, disabled people, etc. Even if it’s just once a week or something.

3. Keep yourself in shape. This sounds almost cliche but I know I would of probably checked out a long time ago if it was for martial arts and fitness. Despite being almost 40 I can still see my abs and I’m proud of it.

Not saying you have to be like that. But you HAVE to stay in shape. Have to.

[Vivaldi]

I am 30 years old and a leftover.

I was a leftover when I was 20 too.

I hardly think age has anything to do with it as I never had a girlfriend at any age.

I have the same chance to get married at 30 as I would have the same chance at 60. Lol.

[SlightlyEccentric]

You ever heard of the term " Christmas cake?"

Its a term used in Japan to describe people (mostly women) who are still unmarried by a certain age (i forget what age).

[aliali8]

japanese people dont even celebrate Christmas

[SlightlyEccentric]

Not the way we do in western countries but they actually do. Its different over there.

[psychoticanimaIIover]

Lol the clue is in the name. 🤣😌

[InsanityIncarnate]

Left over hell. I guess that a 1969 chevy Camaro is left over then. Just like me except a little older left over.. And it's in better condition than I.

[pajamasam]

y'all we've got to stop with this kind of language you realize we're scaring the shit out of people who are legitimately looking for love right

[aliali8]

i think many other questions on this website are equally as scary and mean. Very typical on GAG

[pajamasam]

Yeah but could you imagine being in your 30s single and seeing this pop up? It'd probably make you question your self worth thats not cool.

[aliali8]

why would i question my self worth? i can have a family without a man.

[pajamasam]

You'd question your self worth because some called you leftovers. I know that would make me feel shitty

[aliali8]

I wouldn't care if im a left over cuz i already have family. Kids are my only goal in life.

[pajamasam]

Well that really changes the perspective lol.

[aliali8]

when you have kids, you need to realize that you already have happiness in your life.

[pajamasam]

I didn't realize you had kids. I think if I had kids I wouldn't care much about dating anymore either.

[Teenybop]

Old crusty men and inferior young men say that stuff to wonderful women all the time.

[aliali8]

@Teenybop There are 55 -60 yr old old crusty men who spent their entire lives begging for a young woman's attention so that he can finally have a child. Unfortunately it usually never happens.

[pajamasam]

Well im just gonna start telling women their inferior when I don't like what they have to say since that's acceptable behavior now.

[aliali8]

@pajamasam Feel free to do that, because every other man on this website has been doing that to women for years. 80% of men on this website are anti women

[pajamasam]

I'm not anti women but there are plenty of women on here that need to admit their anti men because we can smell ir

[aliali8]

@pajamasam well if you're gonna be anti woman, then people are gonna be anti man back to you. whats so surprising about that?

[pajamasam]

I'm not anti woman though that's why the shit is so surprising.

[aliali8]

this is a website run by misogynists

[pajamasam]

I've never met the people that run so I can't confirm that. But it wouldn't surprise me

[Floppy2112]

You don't know shit about having kids clearly. And I have no doubt you will be a single parent. No man is going to put up with that attitude enough to marry you. But sure you can invite a whole host of men into your bedroom. That's because sex is cheap. $40 dollars for the average sexual encounter. Keeping somebody and making them happy? Yeah, I don't sense you posses such a skill. You care about one person, you. And your selfishness will destroy your children and they will just be another stat.

[aliali8]

@Floppy2112 I have no problem being a single parent. 46% of all marriages result in divorce anyways, so most kids will be raised by single moms , while only seeing dad once a month.

[aliali8]

The reality is that the older a man gets, the less likely he is to have children. Once he is still single and unmarried by 40, it is unlikely he will ever have kids. Women typically do not tend to look for old men to have kids with.

"Empirical evidence has also accumulated in support of women's preferences for older men, and as you might expect, the data often overlap with those data supporting men's preferences. As this sample of Conway-Beam and Buss's (2019) review suggests:

Cross-culturally, women report wanting partners who are (on average) 3.5 years older than them.
In online dating, women make the first contact with older men at a greater than rate they do younger men.
Marriage records show that women are marrying men who are older than they are by about 3 years."

www.psychologytoday.com/.../what-we-know-about-age-gaps-in-dating-love-and-marriage

[Floppy2112]

"I got no problem being a single parent..." And we wonder why our prisons are bursting at the seems. I really, really hope you are not trying to raise a boy.

[aliali8]

@Floppy2112 nahh its cuz I'd rather stay single than to marry some guy like you

[TacosRAwesome]

Depends on why they're not married. Like some people focused on other things but you know that if they focused on marriage they would have, others simply have nothing going on for them and that's why they're not married.

[ChrisMaster69]

Vested interest and no I don’t.

people do not need to get married, you live your entire life with a partner, love transcends a bit of legal paperwork.

[JamesRandiDebates]

Unmarried men over 40 are the ones who were smart enough to avoid the marriage trap. Unmarried women over 40 are the ones who either nobody wanted, or who refused to get off the cock carousel long enough to nail down a beta-supporter.

[annie6815]

@JamesRandiDebates
Sometimes , women have problems with relationships until they figure themselves out. And , when they do figure themselves out at 40, 50, 55... watch out because the person they choose will have a treasure while some 25 year olds who get married are so into their husbands , they really don’t find themselves out and end up divorced to fall back into a routine with another husband
Which man will have the treasure? The 55 year old woman who never married , traveled , has a carreer with knockout abs or the newly local divorcee, with out of shape, never traveled and working at your favorite diner
by the way , you sound like an ass

[JSmuve]

@annie6815 I think you're kind of cherry-picking here, because that 55 year old woman is more likely to have let herself go than have "knockout" abs and that 25 year old is more likely to be in shape. Also, a well-traveled woman isn't better or worse than one who hasn't traveled. Few guys care about how full a girl's passport is or what her career is.

[aliali8]

@JSmuve what makes you think that 25 yr old women would be attracted to a 45 yr old man? I think men like you dream too much. You get old and ugly with age too.

[JSmuve]

Well, I'm not 45. And the point of my response was to say that it's more likely that the 25 year old woman will be more attractive than a 55 year old and not vice versa. Not that a 25 year old woman would be attracted to a 45 year old man.

[annie6815]

@JSmuve
I’m talking about a 25 year old woman who gets divorced at age 50. And , not necessarily. There are some 25 year old women who do it take care of themselves just like older women. There are some beautiful women who are in their 50’s, 40’s. And some beautiful women who are 25. And clearing this point... a 55 year old woman dating a man in their 40’s and 50’s.

[annie6815]

@JSmuve actually , there are just as many 25 year old overweight women these days/ just as someone in their 50’s. It’s all about taking care of yourself. I’m. Just saying that just because someone isn’t married doesn’t make them worthy of anyone lol... and, there are plenty of abusive mean people who are married

[annie6815]

@JSmuve if a guy doesn’t care about a woman of passion and her interests then that may be a very good reason to stay single

[JSmuve]

@annie6815 I must've misunderstood your response then. Thanks for clarifying. I agree that there are plenty of women in their 20s who have let themselves go and there are many in their 50s who take care of themselves. But when aggregated together, you're averaging 55 year old is still going to be less attractive than your average 25 year old. I also agree that a person's age doesn't define their desirability (check out my answer) and that there are a bunch of shitty people who are married. Also agree that a person who doesn't share/support a woman's passions probably isn't compatible with her. But my point, and I still maintain it, is that a woman who travels a lot for fun isn't inherently more attractive than one who doesn't travel, like you, perhaps unintentionally, implied.

[annie6815]

@JSmuve
I do see where your coming from... but, you can compare two women of different ages and the older one may be prettier but, depending on who is comparing... the younger guy will choose the younger girl due to compatibility , age, interests. Not to mention the older woman doesn’t want a 25 year old lol/ well, most don’t. And , if they do them they may be out of luck. But, a woman who travels a lot and has grown a career is pretty independent, seen a lot , well informed , able to communicate on many different levels. And, if she’s been single a long time then she may also have great insight. I recommend many women 25 years old to also, have self care for themselves because many worry about their husband way too much to be honest/ not all

[aliali8]

@annie6815 there's no way the average woman in her 40s--50s who can compete with the average woman in her 20s in terms of looks. Wrinkles, sagginess, dull skin are gonna come out regardless of how healthy the 50 yr old is.

[Teenybop]

You can get work done for that. Not surgery either. Also 50 year old men can’t compete with 25 year old men.

[aliali8]

@Teenybop botox can't fix everything. It is possible for a 45 yr old to still look 25. But it takes beauty habits that need to be maintained everyday from a very young age. You do not reach 35 then finally start taking care of your looks.

[Teenybop]

If they take care of their skin, it helps a lot. Botox is a no no. Microneedling is awesome!

[aliali8]

@Teenybop even if you do take care of your skin, it won't measure up to that of a 20 something yr olds. A lot of it has to do with genetics,

[Teenybop]

Oh I agree but still- you can look great and healthy for your age.

[dpy87]

Listening to too much red pill brainwashing. You gotta be George Clooney status to be attractive.

[aliali8]

@dpy87 she's only attracted to your money, not you. No amount of money will turn a 60 yr old into a 30 yr old.

[DeeDeeDeVour]

Numerous people get propositioned for marriage but just don't want to get married.

[Andreaslag]

Men no. But women are leftovers. Subpar pussy and old body

[aliali8]

Nobody is attracted to 40 yr old men either. I certainly am not

[Andreaslag]

I am

[aliali8]

haha then thats abnormal. but i know people like u exist.

[RolandCuthbert]

I don't know too many men in their 40s who think they are leftovers.

That feeling of being a loser isn't age specific for men.

[Emperorxxxemilio]

Everybody and anybody is worthy of love and can find it no matter their age.

[Minahh]

Yes!

[Rashnaa]

aww :)

[Hanoi_Jane00]

Left over sure but usually divorced. Not because nobody wants them, just life hasn't worked out for them yet.

[bigmarty36]

Not at all I am married with 3 kids and some of the happiest people I know are single they have casual booty calls an odd time and that suits them. They don't want to be tied to a relationship.

[james_d0007]

I am 29 year old and have no interest in marrying one as I prefer to enjoy my life to the fullest by traveling and having casual sex. SO a big NO that all come under this left over category - maybe some but not always all!!!

[Floppy2112]

Smart man!

[RationalMale]

Depends on the person.

It's like virginity in old tales. No one cares if some old hag is a virgin. A beautiful 18 year old? Sure.

[aliali8]

I guess the only ones you date are 18 yr old virgins.

[Teenybop]

Women aren’t hags after 40. That is a terrible thing to say actually. Don’t worry though, karma always comes around.

[aliali8]

@Teenybop he's probably gonna turn into one of those 50 yr olds buying 18 yr old mail order brides from china. Hire some prostitute for his wife.

[Sarahr123]

I’m 22 but I look 11 and I’m a virgin 🤷🏻‍♀️ Most people tell me I’ll never age *touchwood* so I guess it doesn’t matter if I marry at 40 and am a virgin. I’ll look 18 then so...

[aliali8]

@Sarahr123 hun you may be very young so you might not know this. But men who only marry 18 yr old girls are not decent high quality men. you need marry man with the right priorities and values. Someone who looks for more than just sex or a hot body.

A man who only dates teenage girls will only dump you once you reach womanhood.

[Teenybop]

Hehe probably.

[RationalMale]

@Teenybop Interesting that you think women over 40 are old hags, since I didn't put an age. "Old Hag" typically evokes something like the old crone from Disney's Snow White. Yet instead of picturing someone like 70 year olds you imagined someone Gina Carano's age.

[aliali8]

women are old hags after 30 , on GAG

[RationalMale]

Have you heard of Gina Carano, Alex Daddario, Rebecca Ferguson?

[aliali8]

i don't think that matters.

[ariadneR]

No.
I'm not married yet. I just never found the right person. Call me old fashioned but I want my first marriage to be my last.

[Ewgies01]

No. Maybe they just haven’t found their person yet.

[RickVienna]

Perhaps I am left over. All my relationships were very short. Most of them ended because I am too small for women to satisfy her on the long run. ( 2,8 inches) my ex girl friend said no women will sattle down with a short dick man...

[guesswhoseback]

She really said that?

[RickVienna]

🤷‍♂️yes

[aliali8]

you would never be able to impregnate a woman with a dick that small.

[RickVienna]

The doctor says 50:50 Chance

[RickVienna]

@aliali8 Am I the smallest guy ever wrote with you?

[aliali8]

the doc is just trying to not hurt your feelings. You can't shoot very far if you're just 2.8 inches. you need to shoot and ejaculate deep into her cervix.

[annie6815]

This Alia needs to be blocked. She’s a very evil person , that’s so mean

[RickVienna]

@aliali8 There is a Chance with in vitro fertilisation... but yes its very short I know this..
@annie6815 I am used to it many women are mean if they hear I am small

[guesswhoseback]

Nevermind her bullshit @rickvienna. After some prodding I realize what kind of troll we are dealing with here. She’s miserable about something in her personal life and she’s the type who only feels better when she shits on other people. She’s either depressed and/or a sociopath. Even she does get married the relationship won’t be a good one. Chances are she will herself at 40 one day, 50 lbs over weight with died hair and house full cats. She will be screaming about “patriarchy” and doing all she can to not see the problem is in the mirror comment.

Anyway about the small D comment. No rational minded women would ever say that UNLESS she did it from a position of hurt. You either did something to hurt her (most likely unintentionally) and that was her feminine double standard cheap shot. Women don’t fight fair. Just look at how this @aliali8 bitch is acting.

I personally never had a woman say anything negative about my D size BUT I’ve gotten several other very nasty uncalled for insults. But the worst insults always came from women who were either overweight, mentally deranged or worse. They are just projecting their own self hatred on to others.

Remember it was said out of self hatred. It’s a THEM problem not a YOU problem.

[annie6815]

It doesn’t matter, there is a woman out there if you want her , shoot there are woman marrying gay men these days

[aliali8]

@annie6815 you're the one who doesn't understand how science works. but if he can't shoot, he can always do IVF to have kids.

[aliali8]

@guesswhoseback ok so you're saying that won't date a 40 yr old woman who is 50 pounds overweight but you think women should date a guy with a 2.5 inch dick?

[RickVienna]

@gzesswhoesback @annie6815 thank you for your words

[guesswhoseback]

@aliali8 everybody on here has gotten you figured out. You are just a troll.

You have nothing of value to provide other looking for slights because that’s all you get off on. That’s a neon sign of your own self hatred and deep insecurity.

Get a life. Seriously. Since you are so “young” there are better things to do in life than antagonize people.

[aliali8]

@guesswhoseback I'm not saying every single person over 40 are bad quality. I'm just saying you're much more likely to encounter a bad seed dating at 40 than dating at 28. You just got pissed off by this reality. Of course i know its offensive but its the truth, regardless of however you feel.
I'm not expecting you to smile at this

[annie6815]

No problem, she can’t determine who is deserving. What the hell. There are seriously messed up people married and people with serious issues married. Shoot, look at the domestic violence and the abuse. These people are more worthy than someone who is single that hasn’t found anyone , wtf. She has her head screwed on backwards @aliali8 @rickvienna

[annie6815]

@aliali8 your certainly special with some people that have serious issues having someone. Who are you to judge others. Your not. There are many reasons for one being single including , fear. Abandonment issues. You are seriously fucked up with this. And , you sound much older and bitter than a 20 year old

[aliali8]

@annie6815 women over 35 get called “useless” on here. I don’t see you making a huge fuss about those questions. Women like you are the brainwashed by products of misogynistic culture.

[annie6815]

@guesswhoseback exactly

[annie6815]

@aliali8 @rickvienna
He was simply asking a question. He wasn’t calling anyone useless. Being a product of a brainwashed society is you saying that no one is good past 40. Wait till some 50 year old woman with money and beauty with contoured makeup and in shape pulls up beside you in a Tesla , haha You will not feel good

[annie6815]

@rickvienna the size of your D is no ones business. Date a woman 6 months, treat her special and expect yourself to be treated the same before getting into a sexual situation. There are woman who date gay men who can’t even get it up for them so , don’t worry. Use all of your traits that were given you to get the best , hottest , and most importantly nicest female

[DaMack999]

Well ya. Young people get married to young people. Not old. Ok imagine you're marrying a dude that was 20s when you were in diapers. lols

[Vivaldi]

Are you having a hard time believing that I am 30 years old?

My photo is in my profil.

[aliali8]

Men on here like @Vivaldi love claiming that most young women like marrying men 10-35 years older. As you can tell many of them never had any experience in the dating world, if they are deluded enough to make a statement like that

[Vivaldi]

How about me being 30 years old? Your estimating my age 10 years older than I am do not make my age 10 years older than I am. What do you have to say to that.

[Vivaldi]

As for your comment, I only spoke for rich guys.

[Vivaldi]

And my mother was 18 when she married my father, who was 28.

My grandfather was 29, who married my grandmother at 15 with her own wish

Both were doctor

I know a 60 year old man dating a 26 year old woman, who was rich.

And let's talk about famous people (men), who are dating 20 year old girls at 50-55 or even 60.

A motor bike occured, 59 year old man (someone famous in turkey) had an accident in his motor bike with her girlfriend being 20 years old.

Now let's come to me being 30 years old. At no age, I had a girlfriend, not 15, not 18, not 25 nor 30. So age had nothing to do with my not having a girlfriend. Having a good job and earning good money would work, though.

[Vivaldi]

''A motor bike accident occured''

[Vivaldi]

Plus my father did his second mariage at 44 and her second wife was 30 at the time.

He married an 18 year old when he was 28 and he married a 30 year old when he was 44.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi yea well overwhelming majority of the population are not interested in grandpa marrying their granddaughters. Maybe you're interested in marrying your granddaughter's younger sister, but i honestly doubt most men are interested.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi But lets be honest, what does a 30 yr old have in common with a 15 yr old child? How would a 60 yr old be able to relate to a 22 yr old? Lets be real here, its all just perverted old men marrying young prostitutes for sex.

[Vivaldi]

In our grandfather-mother times, this used to be seen normal.

However, I agree about 15 year old part. The girl should at least be 18. At the age of 18, you start your adult life. After the age of 18, it is all up to them.

But it was old time in our grandfather-mother times , when this was seen normal. You know.

[Vivaldi]

I am saying that happens (for age 18 and older) and if she is over 18, what can you say?

Is it the guilt of a man or a girl dating or marrying someone much older than her for his job or his money.

My father was a doctor and a doctor can marry a woman much younger than him. That is a fact.

[Vivaldi]

My father did his first marriage at the age of 28 with a girl at the age of 18. And he did his second marriage at the age of 44 with a woman at the age of 30.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi Back then during the old age, people did not marry for love. People married for financial stability and to create a family. Women did not have education so they could not support themselves and needed a husband to survive. Back then young girls had power to pick which husbands they wanted. It was the husbands who picked them.

Nowadays, society is different. People marry for love. Women can afford to pick the man they want to be married to. People date several partners before they find "the one" and get married. Back then people did not have the luxury to date around with several people before they got married. They just married their neighbor's son and were set for life.

And in our modern age , where women are able to pick the husbands that they want, you will see that most of us are picking men who are less than 10 years older than us.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi Type erro:

Back then young girls had NO POWER*** to pick which husbands they wanted. It was the husbands who picked them.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi And I will be honest with you, most men in their 40s are not interested in marrying women in their 20s. They prefer women in their 30s. I know this from personal experience. Not all men are perverts who just marry for sex. Many men want a partner who they not only find attractive but also can relate and connect on a deep level. A 40 yr old man would struggle to relate to a 25 yr old. I'm just being honest here.

And overwhelming majority of women in their 20s have no interest in dating a man in his 40s. We don't find 40 something yr old men to be physically attractive. And even if we were to date him, its only to use him for his money. Not to build a family with him.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi here's research and statistics proving you wrong:

www.psychologytoday.com/.../what-we-know-about-age-gaps-in-dating-love-and-marriage

Most men marry women younger than they are; with the difference being between two and three years in Spain, the UK reporting the difference to be on average about three years, and the US, two and a half. The pattern was also confirmed for the rest of the world, with the gap being largest in Africa.

en.wikipedia.org/.../Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships

Empirical evidence has also accumulated in support of women's preferences for older men, and as you might expect, the data often overlap with those data supporting men's preferences. As this sample of Conway-Beam and Buss's (2019) review suggests:

Cross-culturally, women report wanting partners who are (on average) 3.5 years older than them.
In online dating, women make the first contact with older men at a greater than rate they do younger men.
Marriage records show that women are marrying men who are older than they are by about 3 years.

[Vivaldi]

Women in their 20s are adult, no kid.

So how is the older man being a perv.

Do you yourself a kid or something at the age of 25?

A man is in their 40s is not any more adult but older... If you dont understand the difference between 2.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi

www.guttmacher.org/.../age-differences-between-sexual-partners-united-states

"Among all sexually active women aged 15-44,
10% had a partner who was three or more years younger,
52% a partner who was within two years of their age,
20% a partner who was 3-5 years older, and
18% a partner who was six or more years older.

In contrast, 64% of sexually active women aged 15-17 had a partner within two years of their age, 29% a partner who was 3-5 years older,
and 7% a partner who was six or more years older."

fivethirtyeight.com/.../

What’s The Average Age Difference In A Couple?

Using anonymized data from U. S. users who say they are in relationships, Facebook found that Those in their early 20s have an average age difference in their relationships of about two to three years,
but once people get into their 40s, that average age gap increases to about seven years. The age difference increases for older male-female couples, too (shown in red below), though not by as much. (Remember, this is self-reported data from people who make their relationship status public on Facebook.)

[Vivaldi]

You dont seem to understand that. When two people are adult, one is older, other is younger. There is no being more adult.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi You need to understand that there is a difference in dating a younger woman 2 years younger than you, compared to 20 years younger than you. As the statistics show, overwhelming majority of people marry people around their own age. Sorry this pissed you off. But its the truth and reality that you are fighting against.

[Vivaldi]

A 25 year old is quite an adult already. Lol.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi Yea sure, 18 is an adult. Are you saying all 18 yr olds should marry a 65 yr old man since they are adults? Yes, you can marry her but there's no way in hell that you will have absolutely anything in common with her. Its will just be a marriage of sex, not love.

[Vivaldi]

No I am not saying it. One is too old an adult, one is too young an adult.

But the girl goes for his money. Why is man guilty but the girl is not guilty. Tell me that.

This much extremeness happens with rich, famous guys.

In Turkey, there are too many famous (rich) people who are dating 20 year old girls in their 50s. Why dont you blame the girl a little bit if you are to blame?

[Vivaldi]

I just say a girl over 18 is responsibe for her behaviours. Because she is no longer a kid.

[Vivaldi]

You get what I am saying?

[Vivaldi]

You said this wouldn't happen and it does happen.

We watch on the tv that how famous rich guys in their 50s are dating 20 year old girls.

[Vivaldi]

And a man does not become a perv for dating an adult woman with her choice. It is not a suitable thing to do but he is not a perv for doing it either.

The difference is one is too young, one is too old, which makes it something not suitable.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi why are you obsessing over what 5% of the population does? In most first world countries, where women have the freedom and power to pick who they like to marry, women almost always prefer men around their own age.

The usually the only reason why a young woman would marry a man who is too old for her, is because she is extremely poor and unable to support herself. Its not that she loves the old man. She only loves his money. But I can tell you that most women do not marry for money.

This type of marriage that you are obsessed with is not a real marriage. Its just a marriage of prostitution of sex and money. Thats why people do not respect those kind of marriages.

Men who marry for sex are not decent men. Women who marry purely for money are not decent women. And frequently such marriages are not happy marriages but abusive ones where both partners do not truly respect each other.

[Vivaldi]

It is wrong but it has nothing to do with being a pedo.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi People don't respect those marriages because it shows a lack of the right values and priorities. These people are what you call "bad seeds".

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi And trust me, these marriages tend to frequently end up with the younger wife cheating on the old husband with a hotter younger man. The older husband usually abuses the young wife because he tends to have all the power in the marriage.

[Vivaldi]

As I said it is wrong but it has nothing to with being a pedo.

And a girl over 18 is as responsible as the a lot older guy. When adults do something, they are responsible for their behaviours. So if you are to blame, the girl is just as much guilty as the man. Let's get that straight.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi you do not need to be a pedo to not be considered a decent person.

[Vivaldi]

The issue here has nothing to do with being adult or not but being much younger and much older. That's the problem here.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi And you should stop saying that 18 yr old girls can make their own decisions. Because there is little to no18 yr old girls that are attracted to 40 yr old men. Overwhelming majority of 18 yr old girls date guys 18-23. I honestly think you're over exaggerating the statistics.

[Vivaldi]

But some of those girls date men a hell lot older than them for their money.

Those seem to be attracted to their money. Because that does happen.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi yea but thats not the overwhelming majority of the population. Most women marry for love, not money. And just because a girl is willing to date you for your money, it doesn't mean she wants to marry you. I would gladly date an old guy for his money but I won't marry him. I will use him for his cash until I find a young guy who I can actually see as a husband to spend the rest of my life with.

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi I would date an old man for money. As long as he pays me $1000 for every time I have sex with him. While I cheat on him with a hotter younger man who I actually want to marry. You can't stay married to someone who is about to rot in a nursing home in a few years. I want someone who I can actually relate with and can still fuck

[Vivaldi]

It is very common for rich famous guys in their 50s to date 20 year old girls who date them because they are rich.

I see this on the news...

Those girls seem to be attracted to the money.

I am 30 years old and even a 40 year old woman would not date me.

So what can I do?

[Vivaldi]

I am 30 years old, and even a 40 year old woman would not date me.

So what do you say to that?

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi

Most women in their 30s do not even want to date men in their 40s.

Why Do Women in Their 30s Not Want to Date Men in Their 40s?

www.evanmarckatz.com/.../why-do-women-in-their-30s-not-want-to-date-men-in-their-40s

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi I don't think its very common for rich men to marry gold diggers. Most rich men want to marry for love. Rich men hate gold diggers, for the most part.

[Vivaldi]

I am 30 years old and even a 40 year old women would not date me. So who will date me?

[aliali8]

@Vivaldi For you, I think it would be best to get rich so that you can get some women. Not all of them will be genuine to you. But its better than nothing. And this also seems to be the lifestyle that you prefer. So I think you should go for it

[bamesjond0069]

Depends. If the men are rich and attractive still then no. The rest of the men are and all the women are. And id say for women it starts at 30 and not 40 as well. 30s women are bottom barrel. As a smart man once said, all the best wives are married by the time they hit 20. And its so true in my opinion.

[aliali8]

But the average age of marriage in the US is 27-32 for women

[bamesjond0069]

But the average woman isn't happy and initiates divorce. Put 2 and 2 together... they are settling to get married because they are a leftover and can't get the best men.

[COMMODOREII]

@aliali8
The average age of divorcing couples in America is about 30 years old, with divorcing women skewing a little bit younger than divorcing men. According to the most recent estimates, the average age of those getting married for the first time is 27.4 for women, and 29.5 for men

[aliali8]

@COMMODOREII In my city, NYC, the average age for a woman to marry is 30. It really depends on what location you're in

[aliali8]

@COMMODOREII If you go to the midwest, men and women are married as young as 25-27

[bamesjond0069]

Yeah i dont see how that helps your case though. Simply being married... anyone can do that. Thats not proof of not being a left over. Imagine some woman that you personally consider a leftover. If she simply lowers or has no standards she can be married in a month.

[aliali8]

Well if you’re so amazing then you should be married. The fact that you had 10 gfs and still can’t get married , it makes people if you have issues preventing you from maintaining a relationship

[aliali8]

Or there could be something wrong with you because you attract people who are not good for you

[bamesjond0069]

But i can get married easily. But the older i get the more choice i have. So im obviously not left behind, im just getting to the races. I just started dating a hot 18 year old so i mean obviously im going to just focus on doing better and better until im satisfied.

[COMMODOREII]

Amen brother!! Lol

[aliali8]

@bamesjond0069. You can get married easily? I don’t think so. Young women prefer handsome young men in their prime. Not some old wrinkly grandpa. Hot young men get tons of women willing to marry them.

Grandpas or fat old uncles hire wives.

[bamesjond0069]

So how do i have a hot 18 year old girlfriend if im so ugly and old? Smh you're a fake account im sure

[aliali8]

@bamesjond0069 you're just trying to make yourself feel better. Like I said once you're old and ugly, you will need to hire a wife. Stop giving her an allowance, she will be gone in just a second.

[bamesjond0069]

I dont give her an allowance wtf.

[aliali8]

well its true, no woman is ever gonna date a man she has absolutely no physical attraction to. Just take a look at melania and donald trump. Melania only married donald for money. She looks miserable in her marriage and has shown no affection or happiness towards donald.

[aliali8]

Stop giving melania any money, she would divorce donald.

[bamesjond0069]

Lmfao. My girl was just squeezing my muscles and saying how much she likes having a very strong man. I think you might be thinking of fat old losers.

[aliali8]

Don't worry. Just give it another 5 years. You will be completely out of your prime. Your girl won't be there anymore. She'll be onto her next hot guy.

[bamesjond0069]

Nice girls aren't like that. Plus lmao you have no concept of age. As long as the man is stronger and more capable than the woman he has nothing to worry about.

[COMMODOREII]

She has no concept of maturity actually. Especially all of that hate that runs her life. It's no wonder she is asking a question like that because no one wants her.

[aliali8]

After age 30, you begin to lose as much as 3% to 5% per decade. Most men will lose about 30% of their muscle mass during their lifetimes. Less muscle means greater weakness and less mobility, both of which may increase your risk of falls and fractures.

www.health.harvard.edu/.../preserve-your-muscle-mass

[aliali8]

@bamesjond0069

[aliali8]

@COMMODOREII In real life , you're so desperate for young women that you would for any 18 yr old girl that passes by you. You would take me in a heart beat.

[COMMODOREII]

I like mature women not brats.

[aliali8]

@COMMODOREII Men on here have no standards for women. Their only standard is "do you look younger than 30?"

[Dargil]

Nope. Many just had different personal priorities or did not find a suitable partner.

[Silver158]

The only women I meet are either, cheater (cheating on someone with me or trying to at least), gold diggers, attention seekers, just assholes or a combination of some/all of these.

Why would I wanna get married?

[Floppy2112]

There are lots of reason why people are single into their 40's.

[aliali8]

Don’t forget all the bad reasons why they might still be single in their 40s. Usually it’s high standards or the inability to maintain a relationship or there is something wrong with them so they attract the wrong people

[Floppy2112]

Yes, there is a difference to being 'still single' and becoming single again. I didn't so I don't know why. I think it's different for men and women. Women have a time limit, if they want a family. Men don't have that problem. And men in their 40's can attract all kinds of women, where women in their 40's have far more limited options.

[aliali8]

haha I don't think so. Men only say that to make themselves feel better about aging. I am definitely not attracted to men in their 40s. None of my friends are either.
And honestly after the age of 45, 95% of all men are practically UNDATABLE because thats the age where they grow obvious wrinkles.

[aliali8]

Women prefer marrying men around their age.

www.psychologytoday.com/.../what-we-know-about-age-gaps-in-dating-love-and-marriage

Empirical evidence has also accumulated in support of women's preferences for older men, and as you might expect, the data often overlap with those data supporting men's preferences. As this sample of Conway-Beam and Buss's (2019) review suggests:

Cross-culturally, women report wanting partners who are (on average) 3.5 years older than them.
In online dating, women make the first contact with older men at a greater than rate they do younger men.
Marriage records show that women are marrying men who are older than they are by about 3 years.

[Teenybop]

Some grow them way earlier like late 30s even.

[Teenybop]

Oops that wasn’t for this reply.

[aliali8]

@Teenybop he thinks that just because I like men 5 years older than that means I also like men 15 years older. He thinks I am attracted to old uncles and grandpas.

[Teenybop]

Uncle jokes are the worst.

[Teenybop]

That is I agree uncle men are lame.

[Floppy2112]

Where do you get your statistics? That sounds dead wrong.
Second, people should prefer to date in their age group. 3rd men in their 40's do have the most active dating lives of men. And women in their 20's have the most active dating lives of their peers.

"For women, online dating statistics show that a woman's desirability online peaks at 21. But, at 26, women have more online pursuers than men whereas, at 48, men have twice as many online pursuers as women."
https://www.eharmony.com/online-dating-statistics/

[Floppy2112]

@aliali8 This is from your own article:
"Men also experience age-related trends in their appeal to women. From an evolutionary perspective, men's ability to acquire and maintain resources promotes offspring survival, and therefore, if this ability is age-linked, certain ages for men should spark women's attraction. Historically, men's hunting-and-gathering productivity likely peaked around the mid-30s; modern census data is consistent in showing that men's income peaks in their mid-40s and early 50s, though, admittedly, age is a less perfect predictor of reproductive value for men here than it is for women."

[aliali8]

Because online dating includes gold diggers and perverts looking for 18 yr old girls for sex. Those are not MARRIAGE statistics.

If men's desirability peaks at 48, so why are the average age of marriage between 25 and 30?

Here are the average age of marriage in every state:

"Most people across the US are getting married between the ages of 25 and 30. Men are, on average, slightly older when they first get married than women. "

www.insider.com/when-people-get-married-every-state-2019-1

[Alexa703]

No sometimes they haven’t met someone or they were married either divorced or widowed/widower.

[art84]

I would say men and women who aren't married and over 40, probably didn't want to get married or they couldn't make a relationship work.

[Anonymous]

On the contrary, a lot of people who haven't married at that age are most desirable and successful.

[aliali8]

well if they were so desirable, they would be married right? being successful doesn't mean you're desirable. you can be successful yet be a piece of shit.

[Opinion Owner]

Being married.. doesn't equal anything. Marriage is an institution and tradition that not every person values neither see's a something that's desirable.

[aliali8]

well boyfriends are more likely to cheat than husbands. so you can pick a boyfriend or husband.

[ultimega]

Some people have different goals in life. Not everyone has the main focus of marriage

[SavageGirl101]

That’s an interesting way of putting it 😭😭 and nah