Can a woman ever love you "Unconditionally"?

[Anonymous]

Loyalty and friendship are concepts no woman can ever fully understand. It’s not deliberate, it’s in their nature—it’s evolution. A woman will unconditionally love her offspring only—if she is a good mother. Aside from this, women love conditionally and opportunistically. You can’t change that. But once you know it, you can act accordingly.

Consider the stone age; Men hunting during the dawn of humanity needed other men of the tribe to watch their backs during the hunt. That’s why men are naturally inclined to build strong friendships where loyalty is a real value. One weakness that stems from it is that men take things at face value. Especially with women. Only through their own experiences (both successes and failures) men learn to take what women say and do with a pinch of salt.

I am convinced this is why female reasoning is based on emotions. By employing a flatulent burst of emotions, a woman most likely gets what she wants. This obvious manipulation is not necessarily a conscious decision, more likely it’s embedded in her nature. It follows that women are incapable of loyalty and friendship towards men, just as men are incapable of giving birth.

The reason people accept the existence of unconditional love script is childhood. Your parents loved you with all their hearts But your woman is not your mom. She is a fickle-minded person who’s most likely looking out for a prettier branch to grab right now.

When she’s madly in love with you because you are the man who rocks her world.

Keep being that man if she makes your life better, or discard her if she doesn’t. So, she loves you because you’re the best high-quality man she can get, but this sooner or later be subject to change. If at some point she feels she can get a man perceived as higher quality than you, her love for you will decrease exponentially. This is what we call conditional love—a woman’s love.
Ps -Feminists and manginas, its not to offend women. I'm discussing evolutionary point of view.

Women cannot love unconditionally. Its not in their nature.

Women can love unconditionally.

Others (I want to give my opinion in comments)

[Anonymous]

Adult love/marital relationships are not based on unconditional love. They are based on the love that comes from a genuine interest in you as a person, and because, you literally suit that other person's conditions. Not shallow conditions, but more like - they want a partner who is honest, intelligent and has a good sense of humor, so they find a person who is like that.

You don't want a partner who will love you no matter what you do - abuse them, be a criminal, be a horrible parent, etc. You WANT a partner with healthy boundaries who doesn't say "I'll love you no matter what condition you're in."

Of course, within good relationships there is tolerance and compromise, and learning not to make an issue out of petty gripes.

Unconditional love is for parents to children.

Between lovers, people should stop loving each other if the other one does something heinous. That's called conditional love and that is what is normal for adult love relations, even friendships.

[Witchhaven16]

Nah you coping out. yes unconditional love means loving the abuser. That's what it is BUT unconditional love doesn't always have to be about the abuser.. if the person doesn't abuse they can still be in love and just happen to be in a relationship where it's not abusive.. so cut out.. please..

[Opinion Owner]

@Witchhaven16 No, I am not copping out. Unconditional love is not what anyone should expect in a marriage or love relationship. You want people to love you for who you are, that means meeting their conditions, not unconditional love.

What you're talking about is a cliche that people believe.

It's not how this type of relationship works.

When you love an equal, it is not because they can do no wrong, or that they can do no wrong that will make you leave them. It is that they are doing so much right that you love them for who they are - because what is unique about them is what makes you happy. That's not unconditional love.

www.psychologytoday.com/.../unconditionalconditional-love

[Witchhaven16]

Well if it's not what anyone should expect then it's not love. Why can't people just leave the love word out of the whole equation then and use another word like"like"? Smh people fuckin everything up

[Opinion Owner]

@Witchhaven16 Have you been in love before? Or been married?

[Witchhaven16]

Yep and they all betrayed me and cheated and put me down.. tried ruining my life.. a whole bunch of shit I'm not gonna get into.. but I think me calling then a whore after providing them proof of their whore ways is what triggered all of them..

[Opinion Owner]

@Witchhaven16 So, you didn't love them unconditionally. They did some unnamed sexual thing you disapprove of and you rejected them. That's called conditional love.

What you want to know is if there are LOYAL women out there who will remain monogamous if that's what you agreed to in the relationship. Well son, that's MOST women.

The common denominator is you in these situations.

[Witchhaven16]

Shamefully I tld these bitches I'd still love them even if they had a lot of guys and I even took some back but they saw all that as me being weak and desperate and disrespecting myself instead of unconditional love which is what I was trying to show them.. the thing is, these never thought about relieving my pain.. the pain of knowing a girl can't be loyal to me.. and for a girl to think being a whore is so much more fun than being committed.. they need help.. there's nothing positive about being a whore.. there's everything positive about being in a committed relationship with two people. Ain't nothing wrong or immoral about that. So I don't think I'm still not the problem.. I think these girls just don't want to give me the satisfaction of being with them because of how I come across.. I'm sorry I'm not nice to whores.. they don't make the world a better place so...

[Opinion Owner]

@Witchhaven16 I appreciate you got hurt. But I'm talking about the technical use of the term unconditional. You have heard the term bandied about, but you don't actually know what it means. You're using it to mean deep, loyal, "real" love. That is not what the term means. But lets not belabor the point.

You sound like kind of a douchey guy calling them all whores and stuff. You don't write very well, and you're full of anger, but don't seem to have a lot of sense. To me, you really don't sound like much of a prize. You don't sound very classy. And you don't sound like you know what it is to truly respect a woman and not control her or put demands on her.

I think this is why you haven't had much luck in relationships.

[Witchhaven16]

Then tell me ole wise classy one.. how do you respect women? Be nice? that's why I'm angry or a douche because I was nice and I still got jerked.. I wasn't mean to these girls. And writing with perfect diction doesn't matter if there's not a heart behind those words.. and I didn't just hear the word bandied about.. unconditional love is more deep than conditional love so I don't know what you're talking about

[Witchhaven16]

Like I said before I'm just about to be celibate because women ain't for me. Like you ssid I'm not a prize so... And that's probably why I have no luck.. but I always thought that people could see where I'm getting at but I guess I'm a lost cause and will always forever be misunderstood and forgotten about. I don't want to be no superficial girl's prize anywhere.. all that hard work for nothing but wack sex and some bratty kids.. Fuck life

[Opinion Owner]

@Witchhaven16 No honey, unconditional love is not deeper, it's different. It is a specific word with a specific definition that you don't seem to grasp, but again, lets not dwell on that.

First, it's your tough guy act. It's off putting. It's a facade. It's not the real you. So, you're not being genuine with these women, you're frontin'. That's a douche move.

You blame them when you're the one thing all these failed relationships have in common. You have no insight. No self awareness. No willingness to do the hard work of refining yourself to be a suitable guy for a good woman. You sound 14 not 26.

And what kind of women are you going after? Have they literally ALL cheated? That sounds like your judgement is off, or like you choose women on purpose for maximum drama.

Your thinking, the way you write, just feel really immature. It's like you're gaining no wisdom from these experiences because you're so hurt and defensive. Until you look inside, you're going to get more of the same.

[Witchhaven16]

Ok misses smarty pants then what is love.. I like how you say let's not dwell on that lol that's the problem with you bitches.. y'all stay sweeping shit under the rug like some fuckin creeps.. be straightforward and upfront.. and what the fuck are you talking about I put on a tough guy act? Have I not said a thousand times that I've always been nice to women.. so what are you talking about? I seem to go for the classy on the outside, dirty cheating sluts on the inside type of women.. I don't mean to attract dirty pussy bitches but it is what it is right? And I am actually pretty self aware but it goes back to conditions. If you're not a perfect 10 then it's pretty much over for a dude.. unfortunately for me I have many drawbacks that superficial people won't like about me.. my energy literally appalls superficial people.. I'm not for them at all. Just know I never intended to not respect women. They just showed me why they really are the weaker gender..

[Opinion Owner]

@Witchhaven16 You're frontin' right now. That's all you are. A fraud. You haven't grown-up yet but you're past due.

Everything I am saying about you is completely obvious from the way you talk.

The way you called another woman a slut on here for disagreeing with you - that shows you don't have any respect. You get what you give.

And you literally do not know what the term unconditional love means. Like, you don't understand the word unconditional and how it doesn't compare to the love you feel when you meet a woman who meets your conditions.

Don't GIVE unconditional love - have a back bone. Demand you be treated properly from the start - not by being an asshole, but by having healthy sense of self and boundaries.

You're just repeating bad teenage love poem "psychology". Chasing a cliche you don't understand.

Look inside yourself. There's a grown man in there waiting to come out.

[Witchhaven16]

My only condition would be to have a clean pussy because that's something that's easily fixable and there's no excuse why but girl's pussy should be stinking at all.. I've had like three of them bitches and I was not going down on them but would get mad at me like.. wash your pussy bitch.. Really walking through the house with the illest stench like chill.. That can be fixed.. eating a stinky pussy is unsanitary but other than that, I genuinely can't reject girls or people for superficial reasoning. I'm not like you and other people and can just reject someone because they're ugly or don't have a car or finances not being up to par or not social enough.. that shit is wack to me so.. And you're not gonna tell me to have a backbone when you don't really know me. I'm not gonna sit here and prove how tough I am.. but just know I'm not a guy to be fucked with..

[Opinion Owner]

@Witchhaven16 How could someone who talks like you think he offers unconditional love or deserves any kind of love from a woman? Listen to how hateful you sound. Don't you get it?

[Witchhaven16]

If you were really intelligent or if a girl was really smart and non-judgmental she would see through the shit and get to the point of my message.. not in how it's delivered. I was never good at delivery but mind you.. u came at me a little strong so don't act like this is just a me thing. You and people play a big part in how I come across.. you treat me with respect, you get respect back.. there are girls here who I was kind to and they was kind to me back.. so maybe you should humble yourself a little.

[Witchhaven16]

I'm literally replying to everything you said.. So you're not getting any love from me at all. So don't think because I'm reacting like this to you means that's how I am because from the beginning I said I treated girls with respect and was kind.. I was even used for my money. And I didn't talk badly to them.. so you really need to get our your feelings.. like every girl does.. you got dudes out here trying hard to have "boundaries" to attract something.. shit is sad.. point is.. you girls are immoral by nature.. so why do you expect respect? That's all I'm saying

[Witchhaven16]

Now
Big dick dudes get cheated on? Lol I don't believe it and if they do then it's probably because they too cocky or the girls say "it hurts" too much but my ex told me that even though it hurts it feels so good after and I heard the same thing being said on this forum which is why I joined because I found a pattern.. point is.. a lot of women lying out here in general.. why do I have to go on the internet to find the truth? You girls can never just be upfront.

[Opinion Owner]

@Witchhaven16 Oh God bless you. Really. I wish you the best. You really need to stop being so pugilistic and listen to what people are telling you.

[Witchhaven16]

Yea someone just hacked me on this comment

[Witchhaven16]

Dude I hate when these hackers want to troll me and copy paste my old comments lol hilarious

[Opinion Owner]

@Witchhaven16 Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure they did.

[Witchhaven16]

I'm listening and I hear what everyone has told me but to be honest you girls ain't worth this shit.. Not one bit.. not worth anything of this.. I'm cool. Especially when there's a higher power anyway.. Y'all so focused on this material shit when you're gonna die floating in another fucking dimension with no clothes money or dick.. just your soul.. nirvana.. so go ahead.. have all the fun you fucking dirty whores want.. it won't last for long.. bye

[Witchhaven16]

I did get hacked because the comment where I was talking about guys with big gdicks getting turned down was from my first thread I made.. So someone copied and pasted that in this.. doesn't even go with the convo but real shit.. I'm done.. if I'm so not desired then fuck it.. fuck you all.. suck my dick

[Opinion Owner]

@Witchhaven16 And you wonder why you can't attract quality women?

[Witchhaven16]

I don't give a fuck anymore about no quality woman or hoe.. it's not worth it. They bring nothing to the table but he'll.. You gotta go through fuckin hell just to get a so-called angel to be loyal to you.. I'm good.. You women are not worth all the shit you put dudes through.. you're only good for a one night and that's it... I'm done with women forever.. I'm a lost cause. I'm done with life. I'm done

[Anonymous]

As far as men go, it depends on who. I've spent a great majority of my life trying to be in the life of my father. I still love him even though he wasn't around much when I was growing up. I love him, despite all of the disappointment and broken promises. I love one of my guy friends. He has hurt me so many times, just like my father, and yet I still love him. I could not imagine my life without him.

[CaliGirl99]

Sure but only if that woman is your mother. Assuming she's a loving parent, off course she'll love her child unconditionally.

If you're referring in a romantic relationship well no because certain requires have to be met. She's not going to continue loving you if you cheat on her for instance. If she did, that means she has no love nor respect for herself.

[oddwaffle]

There is no such thing as unconditionally. Your reasoning is very circular. You need to understand evolution before you conclude things like this.

For a woman to love her child, the child needs to meet the condition of being her child and not someone else. The child needs to carry her genetics. If not then she needs to be in need of having a child (due to psychological or environmental reasons).

Everything require a trade off of some sort. A condition for it to happen. A cause. There is no such thing as unconditional.

On the evolution side, evidence suggest that women like men who have different immune systems than themselves before they are pregnant but like men who have the same immune systems if they are pregnant.

The test was conducted by University of Toronto. Made to filter out love, looks, status and everything except immune systems detection through smell by women.

[Witchhaven16]

And to be honest I don't even give a fuck about getting love from any woman anymore.. shit ain't worth it.. shit is all about sinning and shit.. I'm good.. I'm just gonna stay away from porn and be a mystic or something and live in the woods or some shit.. fuck society.. fuck bitches.. you can all burn in hell

[Asker]

I like your opinion brah.
God bless you, being alone is best.

[SocksRUs]

Women are not loyal to anything but their self interest. A man will die for causes outside himself, and sacrifice his life for others. Women won't.

Men will die on the battleground to protect his society and protect their women, while women will jump ship to be with the victor.

[Witchhaven16]

Exactly which is why I say they're immoral by nature.. they pussy out.. That's why watching movies like Lara Croft and Resident Evil is such rubbish because girls aren't even like that

[Onlythisone]

No one can love unconditionally. If you think that's false than love me for the rest of your life without ever knowing me, knowing you'll get nothing out of it and that I think the idea is ludicrous.

Love is a 2 way street, having different motivation doesn't negate your part of the equation.

[Asker321]

That answer says a lot. Thank you.

[Witchhaven16]

But it's possible at the end of the day.. just because it don't sound right doesn't mean it's impossible. You just don't like the way it sounds.. so no need to say it doesn't exist

[The3Idiotsyl]

@op you said no one which is false. Not everyone is like you. :)

[Onlythisone]

@The3Idiotsyl not being like me is a condition... That is the definition of conditional... Why am I typing this...

[Asker321]

Not being like you? 😂 your answer could be from everyone, nothing special in it. So much for that.

[Onlythisone]

@Asker321 I don't think you understand English... Everything you think about someone is a condition. If you like something or don't it is a condition, trying to avoid something is a condition, trying to find something is a condition... Either way it's still a condition, hot or cold is a condition, wet or dry is a condition. That is what it means

[Asker321]

I tell you i love you, without even knowing you. Well then?

[Onlythisone]

@Asker321 why thank you XD jk. I don't think I believe you but that part could just be personal bias because a condition I have on love is knowing the person first. Someone might be able to love the idea of someone whom they haven't met but the idea of them would still have boundaries by which the thought is confined. Ideas aren't shapeless vague concepts they fit within boundaries set by our experience. An apple is red, the sky is blue, the glass is half full. Ideas based on conditions. Love is conditional on various things but what it is conditional on is up to the individual. At the very least I'd hope it was conditional on them being human otherwise it would probably get awkward at some point.

[Asker321]

You don't have to give thanks for something unconditional. That's also the reason why you have to know the person first, because you don't believe in unconditional love.

[Onlythisone]

@Asker321 you still said person :P I'll leave you alone though :), if you want to think like that you are entitled to, it's not like it is bad we just have different views on the use of the word.

[Asker321]

I just repeated you.

[The3Idiotsyl]

@Asker321 on point. :) <3

[karahiri]

No one can love anyone unconditionally. Could you love just -any- woman? No. You want her to look a certain way, behave a certain way, do certain things for you. Those are conditions.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Finally, we agree on something.

[karahiri]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy a miracle lol ☺

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Let's create another miracle and get married. Deal or no deal? 😜

[karahiri]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Lmao. No deal. We'd kill each other, I think :p

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

I agree. In the bedroom. 😉

[karahiri]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Keep dreaming :D

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Keep stalling and you will only have cats as your company.

[karahiri]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Now who could say no to such charm?

[Anon85]

I don't think anyone can love unconditionally. We like to pretend that we can, but we all have limits whether we like it or not

[Witchhaven16]

Speak for yourself

[Anon85]

Unconditionally implies that there is absolutely nothing they could do to stop you from loving you, from being abusive to you to murdering your family.

[Witchhaven16]

Pretty much

[Anonymous]

Unconditional love doesn't exist, so neither men nor women are ever capable of it. All love is at least conditional on your definition of the thing, person, or concept that you love. If those fundamental details change, the love goes. This is why we don't love corpses, for instance, although we might miss a dead person's memory and ceremonially dispose of their remains.

[Witchhaven16]

Speak for yourself bro

[Opinion Owner]

I mean, it's mostly a technicality but can you disprove it? Would you keep loving (as opposed to missing) a person if they suddenly turned into a non-sentient chair or table?

[Witchhaven16]

Yea if the love is real.. as crazy as it sounds but that's what love is but in real life that won't ever happen so at the end of the day, there's no cop out for true love.. people just on some cold hearted shit nowadays

[Opinion Owner]

I think you're very wrong about the idea that it comes down to a gender difference though. There are loving and unloving men and loving and unloving women. If you look around you'll see them.

[spoochie]

I believe that women, or men or any genders, just humans, can love unconditionally. It just depends of the person, not the gender, but theoretically we are all able to love unconditionally.

[Witchhaven16]

We should all be able to love unconditionally but women prove time and time again that love is conditional for them..

[spoochie]

@Witchhaven16 Men too tbh, it's just the same. Lot of men think like you do, lot of women thinks the inverse, because of personal experience, the people we meet, etc.

[Witchhaven16]

Yea u right but I feel the men ain't learn this themselves..

[KurdishPower]

If you're not from her vagina she is incapable of loving you unconditionnaly

[Arthurwilliams]

Only their children, that is the pnly true love

Other than that... never

[Juxtapose]

You read too much MGTOW bs mate.

Men and women really aren't that different from each other.

[azzntittiz]

Men love to try reverse psychology. Keyword... try. Ask that question again but drop the W-O.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Dude, no one and I mean no one loves unconditionally.

It's stupidity to think anyone can love someone without any conditions being met.

Will you continue to love your child if they torture you daily? Of course not.

[CT_CD]

Women cannot love unconditionally. Its not in their nature.

[hasrett]

Yes you can love someone, but it doesn't mean you should stay with them.

[Anonymous]

No man or woman with any self-respect should love "unconditionally". There is a certain point where lines get crossed like abuse.

[Anonymous]

With the way these cunts are in today's society not a fucking snowballs chance in hell and look at the beasts of nature aka "women" on this shithole site none of them know how to love let alone unconditionally

[Wwwyzzerdd]

All love from women is conditional. That's why love is fake.

[HungLikeAHorsefly]

Yes, but only if she's your mother.

[thinkaloudtolive]

Yes but they're incredibly hard to find.

[glitter_unicorns24]

As long as men treat women right, yes they can.

[The3Idiotsyl]

yes and yes unless you lie and cheat.