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I think its funny how the media keeps calling this the "WORST DAY IN HISTORY". What about D-day? Hitler getting elected? 9-11? Etc, i could go on. At least nobody burned down anything or torched the city and killed a bunch of people defending their homes n businesses. Or and lets remember kids, antifa n blm burnt and vandalized numerous government properties all over the country. Yes that includes capitol buildings, court houses, police cars, and police stations.
Yet funny enough, the majority of blm protests are peaceful.
Thank god for facts and statistics: acleddata.com/.../
95% of blm protests were peaceful in 2020
Do you want to know what’s even crazier. In 2020 77% of all right wing extremist killings were done by whites supremacists. Yet in 2020 the news outlets were caught up in talking about how dangerous and terrifying antifa and blm protests are. Despite most being non violent 🤔
www.statista.com/.../
Lol where do you live? Have you been to Detroit or Portland? Or Seattle? N by the way the sources you posted are biased websites. A good source I've seen is literally local news. Or youtube videos on people's cell phones of antifa n blm pulling elderly people out of their can n killing them. If you littlerly watch those you see a lot. Enough to convince me. Ill find some links for you.
I take back part of that. I dont believe they killed the elderly man but injured him.
“The sources you posted are biased”
Facts and data isn’t biased just because it goes against your views. And the irony of you saying that when you admit you get your “news” off of local news as if those companies haven’t been bought out by some rich billionaire, or funded by some multinational corporation?
Yt is not a reliable source either, I suggest you do your own research rather than eating whatever crap your feed pops up
Because the people who attacked the capitol feel entitled to have whatever they want and are the real victims for not being handed it.
It seems like I'm mocking them but that is their actual narrative.
That's their actual narrative? Can you offer some documentation for that? I've never heard anyone say that.
Its hard to search for anything on this device, but surely you know the majority of the Republican party still believes the election was stolen, right? With that belief in mind it is not hard to see how some right wing infotainment people could easily try to claim the 1/6 insurrectionists who have been taken into custody are "political prisoners." And people have done exactly that - most notably Margorie Taylor Greene (though, again, it's hard to search on this device so I can't produce a link). Even Trump himself came to the defense of Ashli Babbit.
To be fair, most people period believe that the election was stolen, on both sides, even a lot of the more moderate Democrats. The general consensus among those people is that the election was rigged… Whether or not there was any voter fraud is another question (and totally unprovable). You have sort of combined two unrelated ideas
Oh. You're a far right troll. I thought you were genuinely asking, not just looking for an opening to blurt out some far right nonsense. Also, you can't just call far right misinformation "fair" and assume people will believe you believe yourself 😅
Nah man, no partisanship at all. This was a Rasmussen research study. www.bizpacreview.com/.../
Rasmussen is a far right infotainment source.
FiveThirtyEight Editor In Chief, Nate Silver disagrees with you. fivethirtyeight.com/.../
Besides, you shouldn't be relying on ad hom logical fallacies. Fight ideas, not sources. It's all good, my dude. Sometimes you're wrong about things. I'm wrong about things sometimes too.
Cool. Nate Silver also predicted democrats would win a five seat majority in the senate. So, I don't mind if he disagrees with me.
It's amazing how many media personalities thought the 2020 election would be a landslide win for the Democrats. They did the same thing in 2016. The media is not very good at what they do these days
Yeah. Hard for independent media to make any sense when like 70% of the media is far right infotainment functioning as a campaign arm of the Republican party.
Who do you consider centrist? Like what is unbiased reporting in your eyes?
I suppose AP more or less fits the bill, though even then its hard to say so with any confidence, as I would consider a "bias towards civilization" to be truly unbiased, and AP doesn't seem to have that - happily forcing bothesidesism with that ridiculous equal time thing like what CNN is famous for.
I would agree with that... AP is good. You get stories spun both ways because the reporter on the ground determines the spin. It's just a collection of freelancer journalists.
Well, spin is easy enough to see through so I don't worry about that so much. It's the lack of a pro-civility bias that bothers me. Only the likes of MSNBC seems to be taking that up that mantle, and even then only barely. Everyone else is happy to treat the savages and the civilized like they might both play fair with each other. The landscape is asymmetric but too much of the independent media is trying to strive for where the middle ground would be if things were fair.
Ah, the mind of a far left black supremacist.
"Social justice advocates" don't commit the violence and damage BLM and Antifa do, virtually with impunity since they are arms of the Democratic Party.
She isn't a black supremacist. She actually cares about all lives equally unlike many Trump supporters care about minority lives but just care about them less than white lives.
@Steven8000: A reasonable person would not conclude that she "cares about all lives equally", but your comments clearly indicate that it is YOU who are very prejudiced. There is no excuse for the rioting and violence of BLM and/or Antifa.
If Trumpsters cared about all lives equally than they would respond all lives matter when people say Blue Lives matter and other things too. They only respond that when people say Black Lives matter. What does that show? The problem is with the word black.
@Steven8000: Yeah, sure, everyone is supposed to say exactly what you want them to say when you want them to say it, or they're racist! You are obviously someone who has a lot of voices in his head telling him nonsense.
There is no point in asking this or anyone answering it. The QA already has there mind made up. Both of them commited crimes, one is being hunted down with most those charged never even facing a trial. Both groups were brainwashed 24/7 by one sided news outlets telling them they were right and had no other options.
Well, I'm not American I don't really care. However, I think people who carry national flags are seen by a proud nation much less as terrorist than people who burn those flags in the public.
cause they claim to fight "for black lifes" while looting the stores of black people. they're terrorists, not heros xD
Yet cases of looting at protests are rare and way overblown by the media when looking at statistics
(Statistics from 2020 show) nearly 95% — involve peaceful protesters. Fewer than 570 — or approximately 5% — involve demonstrators engaging in violence.
See more info here: acleddata.com/.../
How does that relate to other protest movements? Like Antifa people seem on average quite a bit more aggressive and violent, cause they see themself legitimized in that, when they believe to fight fascism (needles to say that they are fascists themself).
So there's the problem, that i don't know how much 5% is relative to other demonstration groups.
And then also i don't believe it's only 5%. Have you ever been to a demonstration? Even if 99,9% of the demonstrants are peaceful, you always have that one asshole who gets in a fight with the police and then this is counted in the statistic... So i don't believe that any movement has that little violence.
also since you're so good at looking up statistics, look at how many crimes are commite by black people and then maybe think about if "maybe" the police is justified in actually being more careful around certain people.
the george floid thing was obviously not ok and the police poeple who did that were punished but the same shit happens to white people as well. just before floyd, a white guy was killed in the exact same way and nobody gave a shit.
black lifes matter. but black people commit disporoportionally more violent crimes, which is why they suffere more police brutality than white people. it has nothing to do with racism. but i guess certain people just want to blame someone other than themself for their problems.
oh and also i don't say that the people wrecking the placeat at the capitol were right at all. that's not what i'm saying. they were equally just rioters.
This is a good point.
@TURKIT808 is it really a good point or is it just good cause it aligns with your views?
@genericname85 “I don’t believe it’s only 5%”
Your own personal, biased anecdotal views doesn’t surpass facts and data.
Here’s a suggestion, maybe If you took the time to actually read and go over the study I sent you than maybe you wouldn’t be so confused on the methods used in the study.
“Also since you’re so good at looking up statistics, look up how many crimes are committed by black people and think about if maybe the police are justified in actually being more careful around certain people.”
This is an extremely easy question to answer, I’m going to ask you to put your critical thinking cap on for this one though.
The idea that the rate of black crime is what justifies the disproportionate police brutality and killings is a logical fallacy. Especially when shootings of unarmed black people is 3x higher than that of unarmed white people.
“Black life’s matter but black people commit disproportionately more violent crimes, which is why they suffer police brutality.”
My previous point already debunks this non sense claim.
Sources:
www.bmj.com/.../
scholar.harvard.edu/.../ajs_quillianpager.pdf
Because BLM and ANTIFA killed, burned, looted. At the capital they were pretty much let walk in. And only one casualty. BLM and ANTIFA are responsible for Millions in dollars of damage and theft, and have killed hundreds of people.
Source?
Every freaking media outlet that were covering the 2020 riots. But they called them mostly Peaceful 🙄
Okay fine those rioters were a bad thing but answer me this…whats the excuse for BLM activists and their supporters who broke down small shops and ruined their business all throughout 2020 and 2021?
Ad hominem attack bro, she never said she supported those
I don't know about the other side but you can literally look up videos of BLM leaders calling for violence on national t. v
Violence against a system that’s inherently violent isn’t bad. Lol
What system? You mean hard working Americans that are trying run a buisness?
@TRUKIT808 yet the majority of blm protest is non violent. Try again
What kind of logic is that? A majority of people aren't criminals so we do need jails or prisons. See how that logic makes zero sense. Violence only causes your opposition to double down. Maybe you should learn about MLK instead of puppeting what you hear. In case you didn't know and this is public record. BLM donated a majority of all donations it received to the democratic party instead of helping the victims of racism. Look at Bidens track record and what kind of racist policy's he supported and pushed in the 70s and 80s. If you want violence, it will not end well.
BLM was among the people on Jan 6. ANTIFA was attacking government buildings around the country on the same day. Everybody knows Jan 6 was a media event all for the cameras and to brainwash stupid people.
The riots at the capitol were staged by the same people who organized Antifa and BLM, to make it look like conservatives did it. The conservatives who were there that day were outside and peaceful.
Here, drink this Kool-Aid and all will become clear.
I don't know & don't care. I keep my nose out of that stupid stuff. No lives matter unless you make something good of it.
It's easy, the people who rioted the capitol are white and have "Christian values" and BLM and Antifa, have Christian values, and are "white"
I don't remember that the members of the so called insurrection ever destroyed property or killed anyone
I literally go over this and debunk this in this post. Read the description
![Someone please explain to me how blm and antifa are “terrorists” but the people that rioted at the capital aren’t?]()
![Someone please explain to me how blm and antifa are “terrorists” but the people that rioted at the capital aren’t?]()
![Someone please explain to me how blm and antifa are “terrorists” but the people that rioted at the capital aren’t?]()
![Someone please explain to me how blm and antifa are “terrorists” but the people that rioted at the capital aren’t?]()
They assaulted officers and absolutely did destroy property but ok
BLM and Antifa did the same on a bigger scale. I'm pretty sure that they did the same thing on Jan 6, you wouldn't make such a fuss. And also tell me the names of the officers that were attacked. Every single one of them
You don’t get an explanation when you’ve explained the entire situation from your point of view and are unwilling to accept differing opinions. Now go to bed.
Why would ask this question you are a socialist anti fa member
you say it like it’s a bad thing
Let’s not call each other nazis because and I quote Tom macdonald : nazis are better dead
This
Look at what is left of Portland and then at the Capital... See a difference?