What do you think about a STUDENT getting ARRESTED for saying that men and women, the only TWO GENDERS, are DIFFERENT?

[AviatorTom]

Girls at a Christian school in Canada were concerned because boys were using the girls bathroom. An 18 year old boy student supported them, saying that there are two genders, man and woman, that are different. For that, he was banned from school, and arrested when he tried to come back to school.

What do you think about this?

Here is the whole story...

Canadian Catholic student arrested and charged after saying men and women are different

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Thanks to all for your opinions, for clarifying the story, and for providing alternative news sources. I posted this to stimulate discussion, and it did that.

[blueonblack22]

Make sure you word the question properly. @AviatorTom It should be “HS Catholic student who was suspended opposing trans ideologies (allowing boys into the girls restrooms) was later arrested for trying to attend class.”

Wokesters and leftists will take any mistake, any opening, any chink in your armor and fixate on it as an excuse to dodge the real problem. Conservatives are held to a higher standard than liberals. We got to keep everything 100% factually accurate. They can use your wording mistake to dodge the real question that is: why the hell is a Catholic student getting suspended from a catholic school for disagreeing with allowing boys into the girls bathrooms while using accurate scripture to defend his argument? If that’s true then it’s completely and utterly insane. It’s already horrifying that more and more public schools are doing this. But private Christian schools are doing it now?

Now of course it’s Canada and free speech laws are much weaker in that country. But still it’s utterly insane.

Also when presenting these points try to avoid using links to Fox News and/or Tucker Carlson. Try to use more nonpartisan sources like the NY Post.

https://nypost.com/2023/02/07/josh-alexander-arrested-after-school-suspension-for-trans-views/amp/

FOX news might be completely right about this. But it’s like having a leftist trying to argue a point you completely disagree with and using MSNBC and commentary from Whoopi Goldberg on “the view”. The second I see any article from MSNBC or any commentary from super woke Whoopi I am won’t believe a word about it. Look for more centralized news reporting outlets to report these incidents.

[blueonblack22]

One other point I want to make when it comes to arguing with leftists over insane ideologies and why it’s imperative to have a factually air tight argument.

Here is an analogy to consider. Think of a priest who is performing an exorcism. The priest’s emotions, personal abilities, etc. will not determine his success or failure. Only his faith and properly using scripture to confront the demon will work. The priest himself has to be spiritually clean because they demon will look for any weakness and exploit it to avoid being exorcised. The priest can’t just use his own authority to get rid of the demon. Instead he has to stick to principles and faith. The demon on the otherhand could care less about what is right or wrong. It’s not held to the same standard the priest is.

That’s how you have to debate with leftists who are arguing insane ideologies. You got to stick to airtight facts and not lose your cool. They can get away with being hypocrites because everything is pluralism to them. But conservatives can’t. But when you calmly stick to the cold hard facts and don’t deviate it puts leftists in a bind where they have zero logical recourse.

That’s how it’s got to be when you debate with them. Don’t sink to their level (name calling, assumptions, gaslighting, etc.). Instead stick to the cold hard facts and don’t let emotion get involved no matter how angry and frustrated you might get.

[abc3643]

You used Fox News as a source.

Given their recent evident hypocrisy and lying that has come to light during the Dominion Voting Systems defamation trial, you might want to use an actual reliable source for this question.

[AviatorTom]

The story was also reported by other sources

[abc3643]

While it may not be unbiased, the Catholic News Agency doesn't have a credibility problem like Fox News.

TITLE: Canadian Catholic school student who was suspended for protesting transgender bathroom policy speaks out
www.catholicnewsagency.com/.../canadian-catholic-school-student-who-was-suspended-for-protesting-transgender-bathroom-policy-speaks-out

By Peter Pinedo

Washington D. C., Feb 21, 2023 / 13:30 pm

Josh Alexander, a 16-year-old student in the 11th grade at St. Joseph’s Catholic High School in Canada, was suspended this month for expressing his religious and moral objections to the school’s transgender bathroom policy.

St. Joseph’s Catholic High School in Renfrew, Ontario, allows males identifying as transgender girls to use bathrooms designated for females.

Alexander was first suspended for protesting the school’s transgender policy in November, on the grounds he was “bullying.”

When he tried attending class on Feb. 6, he was subsequently suspended again and arrested for trespassing. He has since been released but remains barred from attending classes through the end of the school year.

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[abc3643]

In an EWTN News Nightly interview, Alexander, who is Baptist, explained that after he began attending Catholic school, “very quickly I was informed by female students that male students were using the female washrooms; this was an issue that came up in class debate and I used that platform to share my opinions as every other student had the opportunity to do, and I quoted some Scripture, I said that there is only two genders. And apparently, because there [are] transgender students in the class, this was considered bullying.”

Alexander also voiced his concerns with the transgender bathroom policy with the school administration but was ignored. Along with other concerned students, Alexander organized a school protest but last November, two days before the scheduled event, he was suddenly suspended.

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[AviatorTom]

Thanks for a more detailed description

[abc3643]

Alexander also voiced his concerns with the transgender bathroom policy with the school administration but was ignored. Along with other concerned students, Alexander organized a school protest but last November, two days before the scheduled event, he was suddenly suspended.

The protest took place outside the school as planned on Nov. 25. Local groups Arnpour Pride, Renfrew PRIDE, and PFLAG Canada-Renfrew County organized a counterprotest, calling Alexander’s group a “terror organization.” LifeSite News reported that St. Joseph High School informed students participating in Alexander’s protest that they would be banned from accessing school transportation.

St. Joseph’s claims that Alexander’s actions amount to bullying transgender students. Alexander told EWTN that was not his intent.

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[abc3643]

“My issue wasn’t with the individual students,” Alexander said. “I have an issue with the system that is going to encourage this form of misbehavior.”

“I do sympathize with the confused transgender students,” added Alexander, “because they’ve been wronged by their parents and by society and by the education system that has pushed this indoctrination on them. But at the same time that doesn’t mean I’m going to condone their wrongful behavior, especially when it’s a violation of my female peers’ privacy.”

The Renfrew County Catholic District School Board, which manages St. Joseph High School and 20 other elementary and secondary schools in the region, addressed the issue in an “open letter” to the community.

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[abc3643]

“Bullying behavior that creates an unsafe space for our students is not tolerated … A trans person should not be required to use a separate washroom or change room because others express discomfort or transphobic attitudes, such as, ‘trans women are a threat to other women,’” Mark Searson, director of education at Renfrew County Catholic District School Board, said in a Feb. 13 statement.

The Ontario Human Rights Code states that schools should give students access to the bathroom that corresponds with their “lived gender identity.”

Alexander, who is being represented by the law firm Liberty Coalition Canada, plans to file a human rights complaint for violation of his religious freedom.

“There’s a lot of people who hate me, but at the same time, I don’t really care. I did what I believe was right, what was right before God, so at the end of the day I’m happy with that,” Alexander said.

[abc3643]

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What happened is what happened.
He doesn't live in the USA, but Canada. So, the Bill of Rights doesn't apply to him, but the Charter of Rights and Freedoms does.

At my age, my attitude is:
Look: Be happy you don't have more serious problems to whine, bitch, and moan about.
God is going to throw a lot more shit at you in the coming decades that will be a lot worse and more important and pressing than worrying about the genitalia of the other people in the bathroom with you.

[Lliam]

Only brainwashed Democrats think that Fox is worse than any other msm source. They are all biased liars.

[abc3643]

@Lliam
Apparently be ause you aren't following "msm" you are oblivious to the internal communications among Fox employees, their actual disdain for Trump, and their need to lie to retain their audience which was fleeing to Newsmax and One America after Fox called Arizona for Biden.
These internal communications are evidence in the defamation trial by Dominion Voting Systems against Fox.

[Lliam]

This is kind of thing has as much importance as celebrity gossip.

Wow, what a surprise that Fox employees have different opinions and political views. I guess Fox didn't vet their employees as thoroughly as did the other networks.

Are you saying that Fox panders to certain demographics like every other network? Wow, that's shocking?

Those employees fled Fox because the network called the election for Trump? What about the other networks who called the 2016 election for Hillary? Networks have made miscalls in other elections, too.

You are obviously motivated by ideology and not reason. You have no idea how things work, do you.

[abc3643]

@Lliam
"You are obviously motivated by ideology and not reason"
I think you need to look in the mirror.
As for me, in my job, we have to be objective and constantly pursue truth because, if we are not, people will die.

[Lliam]

And you pursue truth by consuming msm? That's like getting your facts from a con man. LOL

[abc3643]

@Lliam
No, I pursue the truth by doing something called "due diligence".
And using logic
And using mathematics
And using science

Look, I am going to simply say this to you:

Fox News is being sued by Dominion Voting Systems for 1.6 billion dollars.
Similarly, they are being sued by Smartmatic for 2.7 billion dollars.

Generally, it is difficult to win a defamation case against a news organization because the plaintiff needs to provide evidence of "intent to harm" by the defendant.

Likely due to subpoenas in these cases, Fox News's internal communications about the 2020 election have been made public. Unfortunately for Fox News, those internal communications are rather damning; even I was surprised at how rational Fox people are among themselves, but then have to lie to their audience to retain ratings. Part of those lies was defaming to Dominion and Smartmatic. Fox News is in trouble over this because, not only might they lose the full amounts requested by those companies, but punitive damages could be added that are much worse.

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[abc3643]

Since the BBC is not part American so you don't have to worry about American "MSM", I will let them explain it:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64895964
TITLE: Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump and the in-fighting at Fox News

By Anthony Zurcher
North America correspondent
A $1.6bn defamation lawsuit against Fox News has pulled back the curtain on the inner workings of the powerful conservative cable network in the days after the 2020 US presidential election.

Dominion Voting Systems, a voting-machine manufacturer, alleges that Fox knowingly aired false allegations that their devices helped Joe Biden and the Democrats "steal" the election.

To make their case, the company has called dozens of Fox executives and journalists to testify in depositions and subpoenaed thousands of pages of their text messages and emails.

They show the often heated, and sometimes profane, conversations that took place behind closed doors as Fox News, from chairman Rupert Murdoch on down, grappled with Donald Trump's ultimately futile attempt to overturn the 2020 election results.

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You should read the rest of the article and examine some of these texts/emails which are published at many different locations.

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[Lliam]

This has nothing to do with the original question. You went off topic when you started going on about Fox. And the fact that you singled them out is proof of your ideological bias and propagandized state of mind.

I'm not defending Fox. I see all msm for what it is.

I have no interest in talking about Dominion or Smartmatic. There is plenty of independent proof that they are subject to manipulation. I suspect that their suits are SLAPP suits. And I am sure they have the full support of those who control elections in this country.

I'm cracking up at how you do nothing but repeat msm talking points. It's about as relevant as repeating celebrity gossip.

You can waste your time writing more blather, Mr. Democrat, but I am done humoring you. Go back to watching the script reading talking heads on your favorite "news" program.
I will waste no more of my time.

[abc3643]

Now, even though it is "MSM", the Wall Street Journal is a conservative newspaper.

Here is a recent article summarizing what I have said:
TITLE: Documents From Fox Defamation Suit Spotlight Tension Between Prime-Time Hosts and News Personnel
SUBTITLE: ‘The three of us have enormous power,’ Laura Ingraham told her colleagues, according to filings in defamation suit against network

By Keach Hagey, Erin Mulvaney, and Joe Flint
Updated March 8, 2023 10:40 am ET

Newly released court documents from a defamation case against Fox News over its 2020 election coverage show a deep fissure in the network between high-profile prime-time opinion hosts and other personnel who were deeply skeptical of election-fraud claims.

The documents, made public in litigation between voting-machine company Dominion Voting Systems and Fox News, depict an organization scrambling over how to cover Donald Trump’s failed bid for re-election, as well as claims by the then-president and his supporters that the election was stolen.

In a private text-message exchange about two weeks after Election Day, Tucker Carlson and fellow prime-time hosts Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity were still upset that the network was the first to call the key state of Arizona for Joe Biden on the night of the election, a decision that angered some core Fox News viewers.
...
Tuesday’s document release came as part of a final flurry of pretrial battles between the two sides. Dominion included internal Fox communications and depositions as exhibits in support of its position that Fox News and parent Fox Corp. should be declared liable for defamation. Snippets of the material already had been made public in court briefs that were unsealed last month, but the full exhibits hadn’t been released.

[abc3643]

Sorry, forgot the URL:
www.wsj.com/.../documents-from-fox-defamation-suit-spotlight-tension-between-prime-time-hosts-and-news-personnel-6500825b

If you can't read this article because it is behind a paywall, I will see what I can do. I have a subscription to the WSJ.

[Anonymous]

This site is home to the dumbest people on Earth. Rather than answer the question, they tell you it never happened. Ask the question again, and say: "Hypothetically speaking, if this were to happen, what would you think?"

The morons still couldn't answer the question. They aren't capable of critical thinking.

They never learned how to think. They are all a bunch of lemmings that think that jumping off a cliff is a good idea, because the talking box said it was a good idea.

So this is my non-lemming answer...

If he really was kicked out of school for opposing an idea he didn't believe in, the school district administrator and principal of the school should be fired, tomorrow.

If the police did enforce a bogus trespass warrant, the chief of police should be fired, tomorrow.

[Texaskid1]

"This site is home to the dumbest people on Earth"

Wrong.

That would be Tik-Tok.

[ElGato31]

@Texaskid1 What about Twitter? :D

[Deserter]

Leftists won't entertain anything they don't like, they're liars at their core

[Opinion Owner]

@Deserter

That white house press secretary is a bigger liar than the last one, and that takes a lot to beat Psaki.

[Texaskid1]

@ElGato31 Twitter is a close second but at least on Twitter your can write.

Tik - Tok is just a bunch of attention whores shaking their ass for likes.

[Deserter]

I don't mind her really, she's normal stupid. The leftists defenfing the drag queen stuff and putting children on hormone blockers and mutilating their genitals and then gaslighting the right as if we're the unreasonable ones are the main issue

[purplepoppy]

Having trouble viewing the story but I suspect he's caused more trouble than simply expressing an opinion. It's a common tactic, behave like a dickhead and when action is taken cry oppression.

He wasn't arrested for saying there are 2 genders he was arrested for entering a building he was banned from. I doubt he got kicked out simply for making a comment. He returned because he knew he'd be arrested and the right wing press would lap it up.

[Agagagagaga]

So how many genders are there, O Wise One? 🙄

[OlderAndWiser]

He was arrested for trespassing when he returned to school. The real issue is that he was banned from school for speaking the truth. I know many dedicated teachers but it is impossible to respect US public education today.

[exitseven]

@OlderAndWiser Believe it or not this happened in Canada. The whole world is going nutty.

[Leopard23]

So denied an education for having personal opinions that is taught in biology class?

[OlderAndWiser]

@Leopard23 I have no intentions of defending the actions of this school. I was merely trying to clarify the sequence of events.

[JustMeL120]

In Europe education is a humain right even in prison people can study.

[Leopard23]

@JustMeL120 the head of state in Canada is a European

[JustMeL120]

@Leopard23 to be honest some people need to learn to keep their opinions to themselves i think its a good lessons for him. Its kind of parents job to teach their kids that we live in a world that doesn male sence in many ways and that we should accept it and focus on ourselves.

[exitseven]

@JustMeL120 No, this kid has the freedom to express himself. If everyone was too afraid to question something, things would never get better

[JustMeL120]

@exitseven he doesn't have the freedom to do anything. Its just to do with laws its to do with people in general who have their own view and can do things to you in their own way such as abusong their position and power or any other manopulative methods they can use.

[JustMeL120]

I meant to say its not just to do with laws

[AMS700CX4u2]

40 years in pathology has taught me that their are two natural genders but that sometimes mother nature gets confused. X and Y can combine as XX, XY but sometimes natural mutations occur and produce XXY, or XYY. The result is Klinefelters and Turners syndromes. In Japanese mythology there exist futanaris with both functioning genitalia. I do not know of a true hermaphrodite occuring in the human genome. Anatomically speaking there just isn't enough premordial tissues to produce functioning male and functioning female organs within the same individual. Duplications are possible. Ambiguous genitalia occurs in about 1.5% of all human births. Double check my numbers they may have changed. I have also heard that intersexed births were as common as red hair. So once again check my figures.

[Guy13]

That’s what happens when you have Claus swab world government trained Trudeau in control of a nation. Martial law failed because of truckers. Free speech and Bloc controlled living and moving with papers is next.
Speech 😷 and Movement COVID. Soviet Bloc in North America.

[AdithyaR]

So he wasn't arrested for saying only two genders exist, he was arrested for trying to enter a place he was banned from entering.
Now as for banning him from school because he said that does feel excessive. Unless the school made a gender neutral bathroom option alongside one for men and women, the boy was kinda saying the right thing in the wrong. As much as we need safety for non binary and trans people to live in their indentity, you have to make sure all the students are able to access bathrooms without safety.
So what the school should do is, one men's bathroom, one women's bathroom and gender neutral bathroom. Banning some student over this isn't the way to go.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I'll give the same answer as the other question that asked this same thing.


He wasn't arrested for opposing gender ideology. He was arrested for trespassing after coming back to the school he was suspended from. The kid is a political activist and was looking for drama just to get famous off this for his cause.

But no, nobody should be arrested for opposing gender ideology.

[blueonblack22]

Can it be confirmed or not he was suspended for opposing the schools indoctrination philosophy?

[blueonblack22]

He was suspended for opposing trans ideology while attending a private Christian school. He used scripture to back up his argument too. Then he was arrested for trespassing after being suspended. Okay.
However why he got suspended in the first place is completely and utterly insane.

Anyway would want biológical HS boys sharing bathrooms and locker rooms with your HS daughter @Ez-Bri-Z_v2?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I'll give the same basic answer i responded with to that when someone asked the same thing.

I doubt he was suspended specifically just for saying it. More than likely he was going above and beyond what was considered appropriate behavior for class. Most schools are reluctant to suspend kids. In fact other articles cite bullying as the reason he was suspended.

None of us were in the class to know what was being said and done so its just speculation really.

As to your second question, no I wouldn't HS boys in there with her, but transwomen aren't men so I dont see the problem. I'd have more of a problem with her being alone with the heads of churches as they are the ones actually sexually assaulting and raping kids, not transwomen.

[blueonblack22]

“ As to your second question, no I wouldn't HS boys in there with her, but transwomen aren't men so I dont see the problem”

So a “trans woman” who has the full biology downstairs (penis, testicles) is not a man but since “she” identifies as a woman it’s okay for “her” to use the girls restrooms and locker rooms?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I have no problem sharing a locker room with a transwoman. So what if she has a penis? As long as she isn't trying to use it on me, we are ok.

[blueonblack22]

Here is a cold hard fact about what a HS “trans woman” did to a freshman HS girl. “She” was allowed to use the girls bathrooms because of “her” identity.

news.yahoo.com/...udoun-county-teen-131413442.html

The school administration tried to cover this all up but it got exposed and swung an entire gubernatorial election in Virginia. Glenn Youngkin who is a Republican won by a heavy upset despite Virgina favoring Biden by 13 points in the 2020 election.

Now you can argue what this “trans woman” did was an isolated incident and conservatives are just using that as excuse to blame the entire trans community. But you yourself made a disgusting assumption that:

“I'd have more of a problem with her being alone with the heads of churches as they are the ones actually sexually assaulting and raping kids”

Do you really assume that this is how it is worldwide at all Christian schools? Of course there are scandals and they were gross and they were wrong and should be exposed. However the leftist media ANTItheist mass media absolutely salivates at these incidents. They love every second of it and will put it on blast. But you will never seen MSNBC or CNN being the first to report on what happened in Virginia.

So I’ll end with this. You tell me what is more risky and likely. Are minors more likely to be sexually assaulted by adult educators at public and private schools? Or is a female minor more at risk of being sexually assaulted by a hormonal boy who “identifies” as a girl and has access to private facilities (bathrooms, locker rooms) where there is no adult supervision.

They both happen but if you see nothing wrong with the latter then one of us has a very warped view of reality.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

You're right it was an isolated incident.

I'll post below a list of 10 pastors who were arrested in Texas alone last year. There are hundreds more to cover that I won't bother boring you with because something tells me it won't matter to you.

I stand by what I said. There are just bad people out there and rarely they are trans. In the end, I'd feel safer with a trans person who is just trying to exist than I would with and institution that has already had a major scandal of sexual abuse by its members that were being hidden by the highest members of that institution.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

www.newsweek.com/full-list-texas-pastors-charged-abusing-children-1765910

[blueonblack22]

I will never justify a pastor or any educational dept head doing what they did. Not dodging that. However I do believe the mass media is very selective on what it decides to publicize vs. bury.

Also I don’t think it’s right the catholic priests are not allowed to marry. The idea was that a priest is supposed to devote his life to God and shouldn’t be distracted by marriage. But some of Jesus’s 12 disciples were married. So what ends up happening is the priesthood unfortunately attracts the wrong kind of men in the past. That is a major issue I have with Catholicism. I was raised Catholic but I am now non-denominational. They are many good men out there who would make excellent priests but not being allowed to marry is what’s holding them back. So I do acknowledge that Catholic Church did indeed cover up some horrifying acts by priests over the years. But this was (rightfully) exposed and no longer being covered up. Not to say it can’t happen again but the church will never get away at covering this up. Incidents are going to be more seldom and isolated.

Anyway back to the trans issue. It’s easy to assume that “trans people won’t do that” but just you wait until more and more “trans women” who are really biological men start entering women’s bathrooms and locker rooms.

The HS school administration in Virginia not only covered up the rape incident but had the victims father arrested at a PTO meeting since he was rightfully furious about the school’s policy for allowing boys to use girls bathrooms.

I have a feeling a lot more of this sexual assault is happening now but public school administrations which lean left are trying to downplay it. Mass media outlets will try to mute it out too. But I predict that all this crap will get exposed and it will only get worse and worse as more mentally sick boys/men use the excuse that they identify as “women” to invade private spaces that are meant for real women.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I'm agnostic myself raised Presbyterian. I agree that some of there tenets make no sense but thats what they agree to when they take on the role. The church still hides these predators to this day and as I said there are hundreds of these predators still in the churches getting caught. Who knows how many are still getting away with it?

As for your comments about transwomen, first off, all of them are biological men. They are just female in gender roles. I think what you meant is that men pretending to be trans to get in those spaces. There are ways to police this, for example ensuring they have notes from their therapists showing they have been in therapy for gender dysphoria and that they are socially transitioning. This would prevent boys from just saying they are girls just to peek on them or worse.

Very few people are gonna have their parents put out money for a therapist, go to therapy and be able to convince them of gender dysphoria to get a letter just to get into women's spaces. The ones who really are trans will be able to live authentically and be in the places that match their gender identity. If they STILL end up being a predator then they will be dealt with accordingly but you definitely wouldn't have a mass number of it happening

[blueonblack22]

Also @Ez-Bri-Z_v2 about your comment about “I have no problem sharing a locker room with a transwoman. So what if she has a penis?”

No way you believed that 15, 10 or even 5 years ago. No way.

Don’t tell me you were “enlightened” with the times either. No you are saying that because of social pressure to do so because you are on the left.

I got a feeling if the rubber hit the road and you found yourself alone with a scary looking man who identified as “a woman” in a locker room you might feel very differently about that. You would be extremely uncomfortable by her “presence” while you are changing clothes and showering. No way you would be comfortable with that. Just saying.

Anyway I admit I have bombed your opinion with a long word wall. You might hate what I am saying but I will at least say thank you for hearing me out. I’ll let you be at this point. Have a nice day.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I've always believed that, not because I'm "on the left" (I'm not). Its because I'm not an asshole. At least not about this. I have a lot of trans friends both ftm and mtf and neither bother me.

Chances are I've already showered or used the bathroom at the same time as a trans woman and I would never know because I'm not peeking on them while they are doing the same. Im not the cock police checking genitalia when in those spaces lol

And you are perfectly fine providing your opinion. I value it greatly. I like hearing opposing points of view. Sometimes I even change my own thoughts on a topic if they are convincing. As long as they are respectful (which you have been) then I'll hear them out.

Thanks for the convo though. Have a great day as well!

[blueonblack22]

thanks. When I usually expect to get yelled at, labeled and blocked when I disagree with women on these topics. But you did hear me out and respect that. I’ve actually calmed down more from your responses (despite disagreeing with you) vs. seeing things get escalated. And yes it is the right mindset to find out what is right vs. “being” right. I too can be wrong and when it’s factually proven so I will own up to it.

Deep down I want what’s best for everyone too. However just because something is a “new idea” doesn’t mean it’s a “good idea”. You are not asshole if you point out the very real risks, side effects and dangers with this movement. Yes gender dysphoria exists but so does social contagion. There has been an astronomically explosion in young people identifying as “trans”. Accepting them at only their “word” is very dangerous for a whole multitude to of reasons. They might undergo irreversible surgeries when in reality they were really depressed about an unrelated issue. It also can be used as cover for sex offenders and sickos.

That’s not to say all trans people are like that becaus they aren’t. But you can’t ignore all the very real and very dangerous ramifications of this ideology. People can and should be allowed to question and draw the line where it needs to be drawn.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Of course there will always be risks but you'll never be able to stop them 100%. We can try to mitigate them with reasonable guidelines.

I'm not sure we have seen an astronomical number of trans because of social contagion. More like we have social media showing people that others like them exist. It gives them the courage to come out and have a name for what they were feeling.

I know I experienced something similar when I came out and eventually married another woman. I grew up in the south where it wasn't exactly common or accepted. It wasn't until we got a computer in high school I was able to find others like myself and was able to understand there was nothing wrong with me.

[blueonblack22]

I could down the rabbit hole on how trans identifying youth has doubled in 5 years. I do NOT believe that many of kids were always trans but are now just ”identifying” as so because it’s socially acceptable.

I could dig up a bunch statistics on this if you want. But equalizing homosexual behavior with trans behavior is a dangerous slippery slope. Reason being is a person can engage in a homosexual relationship and still have their body they were born with. But trans people are electing to take hormones and surgeries. They are crossing the line of no return. If I elect to get my penis surgically removed then I am never getting it back.

But you can’t compare gay rights with trans rights. Trans identities and the repercussions of embracing transitioning is no longer a mental decision but a physiological one. Much steeper stakes.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Ones that most credible medical professionals agree is the right course of action for trans folks. Just because we may never understand the amount of dysphoria it must take to want to permanently change your body in that way, I do understand not being happy with your body. I mean, I want to get breast implants myself which is a permanent change to my body.

But let's take a woman with breast cancer who needs a mastectomy for her medical needs. Is it not the same as a transman who gets one for their medical needs?

[blueonblack22]

by the way I believe in free will and free society. You should be able to do what you want with your life as long as your decisions to negatively impact others. But the trans movement IS negatively impacting others. Besides the example of “trans girl” raping a biological
teen girl there are other negative externalities. Chief among them is allowing minors (and even prepubescent children) to take drugs and surgeries to transition. Minors can’t buy alcohol, marijuana, nicotine, gamble, etc. for a reason. But why are allowing or even encouraging them to perform surgeries on their bodies just because they “feel” like a different gender. There are lots of other mental issues that can be the true underlining problem (depression, bipolar disorder, etc) but people are jumping on the “oh I think I’m trans” and society is supposed to take that as indisputable truth.

I don’t buy it nor ever will.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I can find the study again because I quoted this to someone else in another thread, but they tracked like 700-800 trans youth who received trans care. A majority were just given hormone blockers which once you stop those your puberty continues like normal, but very few kids ever detransitioned. At the age of 16 they start getting hrt meds which do have permanent effects. Surgeries were exceedingly rare and of those that actually did have surgeries, 71-77% percent of those were mastectomies.

I'm sorry but by age 16 I definitely knew I was a woman and im sure you knew you were a man. So why do we suddenly question trans youth when it doesn't align and claim they are too young to know when other cis 16 year olds are taken at face value?

[Jessica405]

This fucking wokery bullshit is really getting beyond a joke. Individuals can be what they want, but don't expect other people to abide by what that thought is.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

If you are going post and say stuff then at least be accurate in what you are posting instead of trying to mislead people.

He was arrested for trespassing private property after being told to leave; nevertheless the Catholic institution is pure trash anyways.

The catholic institution doesn't believe the word of God the Bible but rather their man made BS doctrine so no surprise they got offended what this student said.

[Tiffanytrans]

Its good and they should get the death penalty. Because words are just as lethal as a nuclear bomb. Everyone knows that. Plus, if you disagree you're just a fascist. Because having the government lock people up for words they disagree with isn't authoritarian at all.

[chrissykerdock]

they've taken things too far...100% true men and women are different... and he shouldn't of been arrested for such a statement... not for a second is it remotely true we're the same because it's not at all true... really insane... i watched that news story and thought myGOD we're in a real socialist world now.

[DubiousIntentions]

Wow, banned for telling the truth. maybe if had said there were multiple genders they would have rewarded him. Makes me wonder if all these multi-gendered people are just trying to be trendy.

[Anonymous]

We live in delusional times where people marry treats, believe in stupid ideologies, vote for lying politicians. I’m just waiting for a housing crash, economic collapse and world war 3 or Cold War. Maybe that will wake up people. Yes, there are only two genders. Is someone going to grow a penis on their chin and make up some stupid liberal gender ideology called menale (men/female) for people who have chin penises?

[BCRanger10]

He was either suspended or kicked out. What he was actually arrested for was trespassing. Either way, it's pretty stupid that even in a Catholic school, faithful Catholic students are being disciplined for being faithful Catholics.

[alice55]

In France a teacher was banned from her school for the same exact reasons it's crazy (it was a political school in Paris).

[Anonymous]

This is a Fox News article and I have the feeling it’s not telling the whole story. I have the very strong feeling this guy did more than express his opinion with regard to mtf trans students using the girls’ bathroom that led to him being expelled from school.

[SaoirseS]

There’s no doubt much more to the story that doesn’t appear in the article.

[Anonymous]

It’s part of a broader agenda. If you’re forced to believe something that’s an obvious lie because of fear of something more powerful than yourself, you will do anything for anyone more powerful than yourself. This lie about the infinite number of genders is only the beginning. If enough people capitulate, they will be able to force the population into doing much more horrible things.

[peedy]

I think that's complete bullshit 1st he's right 2nd he has the right to say anything he wants if it bothers thats your problem and you'll dont have to listen
Its just another way the evil globalist are trying to divide, demoralize, concur and inslave us

[shi-shi]

Actually he was suspended for bullying students and then arrested for trespassing, but of course right wingers read a headline and immediately get offended and start crying without doing even a simple Google search 🙄🙄

[ItsMykolaJenkins]

Why girls dont go to male bathroom? why its always males forcing them into female spaces and not another way around, dont you see it weird?

I never see problems with trans males... its always trans woman creating chaos... aka males

Its nonsense

[Agagagagaga]

Ah so that’s why all the women don’t come into the men’s locker room while we’re naked with our dicks out. Because men said so!

🙄

Take some goddamn responsibility. Women are every bit as shitty and evil as men.

[ItsMykolaJenkins]

@Agagagagaga in your weird fantasy maybe

[Agagagagaga]

You mean women AREN’T responsible and accountable the same as men?

So THAT’S why you all get lighter prison sentences. Got it. 👍 You don’t have the same accountability because you have a vagina. Ohhhh!

[ItsMykolaJenkins]

@Agagagagaga we dont do that what you said

[gorydetails]

At a Christian school, even? Canada is a failed state.