When I say rejection, I mean a nice way to say "No", not being rude or something.
It's very immature thing to do, just was curious why do they act like that.
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Because on a very psychological fundamental core level as a man, rejection to us attacks our identity as a man, a man which has by nature an ego to protect and by society an image that of one to attract women. Any guy that does this is doing 2 things, reacting out of his own nature and natural pain centers that reflect said rejection, and 2 they are acting out of extreme irrational thought by not understanding the rejection and why. There is a difference between acting and reacting pro-actively, most men react out of not understanding some core fundamentals. Women are essentially rejecting us but more so our initial attempt at the date itself, not necessarily us as a person and who we really are but our initial interaction or approach. This reaction is common and out of absolute blind fear often even hatred for that woman or women in general. This is why it is usually on the part of the woman a simple polite "no" and not a vast explanation of WHY NOT, most women feel bad at having to answer No simply because something did not align with their expectations but a simple no is not meant to be used to attack his every core feature of being a man himself. (In short, they are rejecting the approach, not the man himself. Men often take this to heart and usually always personally.) Either way, it still hurts and men always have to endure having been told no, the pervasiveness of it is what makes it really hurt when they have heard it a lot without any real solid feedback from the woman on exactly why, which is of course embarrassing to her to have to explain. I have come to a conclusion that is a bridge we as a species will never get over. There are no pre-defined rules of engagement between men and women so each side thinks their both playing fair and each side thinks their both being cheated. In short, both sexes could learn to be more understanding, proactive, expressive forthcoming in their courtships. I personally would rather a girl that rejects me give me a solid reason/feedback as to why she would no accept so that I might have a chance to improve my incoming ground approach at full speed next time before I hit that wall again... To me the real question here is, women when are you going to start giving valid feedback and tips?
Well said. I think this is the part women/girls don't understand but also don't care either. I rarely see women/girls handling rejection well.
Women don't give feedback because men made them this way. Honestly I personally have a hard time with taking advice from a girl that just rejected me.
Well a lot of girls don't really understand how much different the dynamic in dating between men and women at younger ages. Younger girls are the more selective sex and that's based on biological logic. It's easy for an attractive girl to ask why guys are bitter when they haven't really experience nearly as much rejection as the guy has. An average girl is going to have a lot more options than an average guy. That's common sense.
On top of this, the entitlement and bullshit that women spew at you when they reject you can sometimes boil you up. Rejection is fine but I've had girls deliberately insult my very existence for simply showing interest.
I hate self loathing attitudes and I wrote a take on rejection a while back on my old account that I'll link here. I can't stand feeble minded guys who take rejection as he end of the world but at the same I can understand their frustrations. I've been rejected a TON of times but I always got back on my feet and tried again with the next girl. That's why I still pulled and other guys didn't.
I remember that MyTake and I liked it. Still I believe that when you reject guy in a nice way and he suddenly changes from super nice to very rude, It's a problem and It makes me feel good that I didn't say yes. A man who can handle rejection has my deep respect.
We're definitely in agreement on that.
Because so many of them don't know how to respect themselves or another person. There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for the behavior. Yes, girls do it too, but men take it to another level. When a girl does it, it's a level of psychotic. You can be nice, kind and respectful and they will still hate you for it. They don't know how to treat women. Many are watching porn or getting influenced from bad people in their lives. And mock and make fun of those who knows how to treat one right. I know, because I had it happened to my all my years as a child and teenage years. I always though I was the one at fault, when I realized at the last minute that I did nothing. You understand? You did NOTHING. And nobody deserves that kind of treatment.
Bitter people are bitter people. They can't love you or respect you when they're like this. In turn, their bitterness made me grow up bitter because it's like no matter where you go, so many acts like this. But I had to let it go. Because I have to be responsible with how that bitterness affect other people. Plus they are very immature and is mentally regressed. A mature male accepts rejection and moves on. They wouldn't hurt you because they felt hurt from being rejected. And if they care about you enough, they would still be friends with you if you're that important to them more than their feelings. And that is IF they wasn't lusting after you for sex. Lusting after you, and you can forget about ever feeling sorry for them. Plus, those with good intentions don't behave like this. It's an act. I've been rejected too, but I rather cry at a corner, or what I did growing up, in my bedroom, than lash out at somebody because of my insecurity issues. And god forbid scare them for life and make them so insecure that they too now have relationship and dating problems.
What so many refuse to understand is what you do now can affect yours and their future. But what to expect from a very selfish world we live in.
Because movies. In the movies the lead always gets the girl. And who doesn't want to get the girl? Every man wants to be the lead in his life movie. Be the hero. The stud. The suave charmer. The rugged and handsome Adonis of pure male sexiness. The epitome of masculinity.
Is James Bond ever rejected? What about Batman? Thor? Heck you don't even NEED to be hot and tough anymore. There's all of these movies where average looking guys like Seth Rogen, Jon Favreau and Michael Cera get with women way out of their league (ahem Emma Stone and Scarlett Johansson). Because they 'won her over' or something like that. Or she just really liked his sense of humour. Whatever. Point is guys are taught if you are 'this way' (aka the lead) you get the girl. Even if she hasn't made any indication that she even likes you back. If you like her then that's that. And if don't get her well then there must be something severely wrong with you and you need to hand in your man card. Even the lesser attractive sidekick often gets a lesser attractive mate than what his friend gets. Of course all men will prefer the hotter one. Nobody wants to be the sidekick. Or worst yet... the comic relief. You are owed the girl.
Same as with girls being taught a knight in shining armor is coming to recuse them from some imaginary dragon.
And then there are those of us who don't buy into any of that nonsense.
You're totally right. Movies are downloaded into our collective consciousness.
Often the lead *is* rejected but, in that case, obnoxious, sociopathic, dangerous, or just plain shitty behavior always wins the day.
The Notebook? Writing a girl every day for a year may be romantic if Ryan Gosling does it. For everyone else, it's stalking and results in restraining orders.
What happens when a strong, capable woman tells off James Bond? He forces himself on her and is literally rewarded with pussy galore.
Whether romantic drama or action/adventure, we all get the same messages. Keen observation.
I've had this happen to me a few times mainly when I've misread the relationship like I think we're friends but they obviously wanted more but didn't make it clear. One really bad one was this guy and once he knew that I considered him just a mate he wouldn't even say hello to me when we saw each other, we worked together so we saw each other a lot! He'd look at me up and down, scoff and walk off. Someone then told me he was laughing about me behind my back and telling stories, he refused to sit near me like if the only other chair was near me he'd stand up that time of thing. It was and he still does it ( I said no to him 2 years ago now) it's just so nasty. I just saw it as increible immaturity and dodging a bullet because do I really wanna date someone whose that horrible when things don't go his way? Another guy this happened with started yelling at me and blaming me for every little situation to make my life hell. I think it's just revenge? I don't know! But it's so nasty! I just kept being nice to the first guy and didn't by into his little game. Second one was harder we lived together and I had to tell him you need to stop, he ended up moving out 2 week a later after I told him that
I think this has a lot to do with the "Nice guy" complex that you see a lot these days. Many men do believe in the saying that "nice guys finish last" and complain about being "friend-zoned" and that girls only like bad boys that treat them like crap. They think that by being nice to girls, they can get some, but of course the world doesn't work like that. Also, a lot of guys seem to think that any woman would be flattered having him like her, and they don't see rejection as part of the plan. This reality shock can be quite traumatizing.
PLUS , It's just an animal instinct. It hurts. When someone jabs you with a needle, or punches you, or pinches you, you smack them in the face. It's just a visceral response to pain.
This!
Perfectly described when this happened to me last. I just thought the guy was cool and wanted to be his friend. He thought I was flirting (which i was NOT!), and blew up at me because he thought he was a nice guy and deserved better, which meant deserved me to fall instantly in love with him. His bullshit tantrum literally made me cry because of how horrible it was, and i DEFINITELY don't think of him as the 'nice guy' he'd like to think he is. he's a fucking asshole
@jinglybeads No! the guy was not an asshole. Its just a frustrated nice person who was stupid enough to think that being nice or good to a women makes her pussy wet. A product of the rant of women 'about where have all the nice guys gone to?', the top first quality that women say they want in a man is for him to be nice. That shit is miss leading af. Attraction doesn't work like that but I know I would choose an average looking nice girl any day over a 10 who isn't even trying or doesn't really care about me and Im just one of her many options (that shit is so unattractive). Just inserting my 2 cents.
@BlackMaleYou Take your change back because your shit don't make sense, bruah.
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What you are describing is a break up after a relationship has been formed and not after just one or two dates. Both genders react with anger, not just guys.
Rejection feels like an attack on a person's soul; why wouldn't the rejectee react in a defensive manner?
Cause rejection hurts and some people do not have the emotional intelligence to deal with that situation so they lash out instead of handling it in a well mannered way.
It has to do with their ego, it gets shattered.
I have never been rejected because I never asked anyone out, but if I asked out a guy and he rejected me, I will most likely feel bitter and offended lol and I will try to avoid him.
I will chime in on this and I will be open-minded as a guy and try to understand the female side to this as well. To start off, there are many factors why guys are bitter after rejection. Understand girls/ladies, guys and men for that matter, who want to ask out girls/women in a genuine way by initiating a convo with a female to get the ball rolling and find someone is on our mind.
Now sure, the 3 major factors as to why a female will say no
1) Taken, 2) Not interested, 3) She thinks he's lying and just after her for sex. But not all guys think this way, ladies, you would be surprised how many great guys there are out there who want to be with only 1 girl or only 1 woman to be with. Don't take this the wrong way ladies, but guys will view women like jobs, you have to try and search for everything that fits your description and narrow it down to see which 1 suits.
But let's say a guy is decent looking, good job, has his shit together and decides to be himself, a good genuine, normal guy and ask 100 girls for a date, chances are 90% or more will say no, therefore when a guy keeps getting rejected it hurts we are human. Girls/women get PISSSSED when a guy rejects them, but here's the difference girls/women can get over quicker because of the support through other girlfriends (your friends) and the constant wooing by other guys.
On a good day for a guy he may get a couple of glances by a girl or a woman, if a girl is pretty she will be looked at from top to bottom so what I am trying to say is rejection hurts more for guys then girls because the true guys/men out there want it to work out. But I just feel that even women who are single, just want to be fun and enjoy life and usually that is true but I know girls who use that merely as a decoy because some guy she dated scorned her, again we are all human.
Could he have handled it better, sure he could have but there are 2 sides to the coin, you as a girl have a right to reject him nicely. However, he can say okay fine don't talk to me? End of the day, guys aren't looking for girls to be our friends, sometimes sure, but unless a girl is into guy stuff like video games, sports and going to a bar to eat wings and joke about stupid shit... why would we talk to a girl? A guy is not going to sit there and listen to your other guy problems if you rejected him unless he's gay or trying to be Mr. Nice-Guy friend to prove you wrong, which let's be honest that does not work either.
Truth 101 from a male point o
Yea... well of course its easy for you as a female not to see it. because all you females do is pick and choose. Yes and No. you don't see the background work that guys do, the methods to bump up enough courage to speak to someone you like... when i was younger, it used to take weeks...
then you finally walk up to the person you are attracted to, and the cunt shoots you out of the sky like you ain't shit.
Now imagine this happening, not once, not twice, not THREE TIMES, but your entire fucking life and tell me you won't be frustrated and go off.
(im talking theoretically here... I've rarely been rejected)
YOU get to pick and choose... but you try talking to that one guy you like just for them to act like you are non-existent... then multiply that feeling by at least 100.
What you just said up there... is the reason why i treat women the Very Same Way they treat men... and darling i have to say... im HATED for it.
and they call me all sorts of things, "bitter" included... except im not. i just give people a dose of their own medicine.
I've rejected a lot of girls... but i at least gave them a shot before telling them we won't click, but because all girls do is pick and choose... they can shoot a guy down before he can get a word in...
and then you ask why are they bitter and try to trash the girl... because she IS TRASH. you won't even give someone a chance to state their case? that uppity?
It's because their self-esteem/self-worth is based on women's approval and it chips at their ego to be rejected - which causes them anger and resentment. I used to be that way when I was much younger; however, I don't pursue women anymore and haven't for a ton of years. I let them come to me - but couldn't care less even if they don't. Without even trying, I've rejected the last two women that hit on me. Never gave a single clue that I was interested in them either.
Changed my whole attitude toward women and stopped seeing them as an object to be pursued and now I'm irresistible to some women. Weird stuff. The last one I rejected started to shake and cry right in front of me. She seemed ready to haul off and belt me in the mouth. Had to fight off grinning throughout the entire ordeal.
Don't think this is some kind of psych game I'm playing either. I really stopped caring what women thought of me and my mental health improved 1000 percent. I really REALLY couldn't care less. This isn't something I practiced to attract women through reverse psychology or some PUA BS technique. I'm not running around negging or whatever. I honestly, really, genuinely don't care what women think of me and couldn't care less if I don't get laid. Sex is fun, but it's just sex. I can take it or leave it.
Bizarre, right? Yup. It's not something you can learn or practice either. There's no 'technique'. You genuinely just stop giving a **ck and suddenly you're attractive to some women. Crazy stuff.
Your know I've had fleeting moments of that attitude but they didn't last long. At some point rejection and the desire to get into a long term relationship put me right back to the drawing board.
Have you ever been married? Do you have kids? Are you REALLY one of those "I don't give a shot guys". I feel like most guys who act that way are just doing a good job at faking it. But honestly I give props to those guys who fake until you make.
@somewheresomeway
Not married. No kids. I honestly, really couldn't care less. Like I said, when I was younger, I was the exact opposite of who I am today. But back then - I didn't know a fraction of what I know today about life. Some would say, "You're just a sad, lonely, bitter guy faking life satisfaction.", but they'd be patently wrong. I couldn't be happier. No depression. No loneliness, no bitterness. Love being a total, sovereign island. I'm way, way happier at 50 than I was at 30. I know a lot of people get down when they're not in a 'relationship', and I used to be one of them. But as I got older, I started to see things that I would never have recognized in my youthful, blissful ignorance. I sometimes look back at how different I was at 20 than I was at 10. It's the same now. There's zero about me at 50 to compare to the old me at 30. Thankfully, and lucky for me, that guy is dead and buried - hopefully never to return.
I'm 35 and recently the loneliness and biological clock had slammed into me worse than ever in the last year. In my 20s I had issues but I told myself to focus on martial arts and my corporate profession (I'm successful). Now I've made progress I feel like NOW is the time to find someone to get serious with. All my siblings and most of my friends are married and having kids.
I guess I'm also self conscious about all the negative stereotypes associated with single men past 30 (beta, gay, immature) etc. I guess that doesn't bother you but I'm having a hard time worrying about my Rep.
@somewheresomeway
Yeah. Successful here, too. Top 20% of income and asset holders. A fellow bachelor just got married at 59, so I'm the only one on the 'team' not married now.
Don't really care what they think of me in regards to being beta or whatever. My feelings wouldn't be hurt if they did. I like them and all - but if that's what some of them think of me - that's just how things work. See what I mean? I understand things now that I didn't when I was thirty. Doesn't bother me if they think that way in the least. I can't tell people what to think of me - so live and let live.
When I was thirty - I would have thought 'today me' off putting and anti-social, too. I've changed 'existentially' from the 30s me - and for that - I'm truly grateful. Come to think of it, I remember reading a little Buddhism on the subject of desire and how desire is the root of all misery. Maybe I buried that in my subconscious somehow and that was the reason for my existential changes.
For every guy who's ever hit on you, there are that many to the nth power of guys who have been rejected by women.
It's amazing how girls actually think they know what it's like getting rejected by a girl.
No, our egoes are not easily damaged. No, we do not have low self-esteem.
It's because rejection fucking hurts. Some people handle pain with different degrees of tolerance. Some people have very low tolerance, and react badly to it. Thus, what you call immature is just someone trying to reconcile being hurt and trying not to show it. It's pretty basic human nature, except that a guy who acts emotional is seen as weak in society and is also likely a turn off to many women.
What happens isn't a blow to the ego. Rather, you've pretty much LOWERED the guy's self-esteem. Thus, as a result of rejection, you have guys who end up with low self-esteem because of rejection they face. Some guys get used to it. Other guys don't.
Doesn't make rejection a positive subject or good thing to do. Rather, you should learn to be considerate of how people feel and whether you would want to be treated that way. And if with kindness you are being treated with rudeness, then you should honor the rejection you've leveraged and move on.
(I'll never understand why girls think they can hurt someone and still want to be their friend.)
Bad experiences associated with rejection, like wondering if she's seeing anyone who's just better on the outside then comparing the inside and assuming that must be better as well, then below then getting insulted by friends and enemies about how much poon you get or don't (doesn't hurt when enemies do it, mainly friends. There's no other guy we can talk to about our problems so until we get intimate we can't vent to anyone even if our guy friends would understand more than her/the person. Its just not the customs of what males do, even mentors for boys without fathers its emasculating to talk about, heck especially with your father figures, cause you feel they're older you let them down just like whoever you have a crush on or see on the street by being inadequate in some way, and we may say we don't care what others think but we're so ready to say that because what others think or what others might thing has wounded us greatly in the past, I've never been rude to a girl for rejecting me but I know what it feels, and its always pretty intense for everyone so either its a bit more intense for these people, or they've been conditioned by their mates or even past gf's to fight back, everyone is a making of their past unless they're smart enough to weave around their sculpting
the real question is what/how did the girl interact or rather accept the precious kindness and/or affection before the "nice/gentleman no" came.
truth is, often times, even if girls (or boys as it goes both ways) dont overtly lead on a person, if they dont immediately state their intention or expectations for the friendship/relationship, then they often inadvertently lead on by NOT doing or saying anything.
if the first time they knew/were aware that the boy was flirting with or showing the start of increased attention to them, they set the parameters for the relationship saying that they just interested in being friends and THATS ALL (legitimitely), and also dont flirt back or just take the attention and ignore the fact that its increase until they start to feel uncomfortable now that its no longer just subtle... by then my dears, you are officially leaving on and there will be hurt feelings... emotions are killers and so we must be very careful how we interact with them. just my two cents
I think for some guys, it's a blow to the ego (it usually is, even when they can handle it), and I think some guys take it really really personal.
I''ve been friends with guys who can't handle it and it gets creepy fast, even from an outsiders perspective.
Now, for me, I get all kinds of personal attacks for asking a girl out. No reason that I know of (other than somehow I must look like I'm fun to hurt). Just for coffee, give them respect, and locally, at least, the girl will just about always go for any insecurity they think is there and make it personal... and just about every time, I've treated the girl with respect and kindness, even after the extremely personal attack. I figure asking a girl out and getting a no doesn't mean I have to ignore them or be nasty to them, even if they might deserve it back a bit. I'm bigger than that.
Of course, even though the girls just about always go for an attack (so I have little experience with a kind rejection), I would think even the kinder ones could seem "personal" for a lot of guys; though like you know, we all handle it differently.
Well it depends on what type of character and personality the person has. I for example have been rejected a few times and yes it felt bad but not to the point where it took over me and i started being disrespectful to the girl because as you said it is immature ( knowing and controlling yourself is good). The thing is most of the time guys don't deal well with rejection and most of the time its one of the following reasons:First. Either they didn't expect it and had hopes which hurts more than just a simple rejection you didn't have high hopes for or you knew the answer beforehand. Second. They think the girl has something against them and misunderstand the hole thing and start attacking (verbally most of the time hopefully). And the last one is that simply no one likes being rejected, no one likes feeling bad and we start feeling pushed into a corner. People react differently to that. Some react better some don't. And there are many different other reasons like personal stuff that happened, maybe they have a condition or something or they simply overreact. And it's the same for girls. I could go on days writing about this but you get the point.😂😂 hope this helps.
Why guys do that after they're rejected is because they hurt. Now, as per science, the brain deciphers social rejection and romantic rejection through different areas, and the area which processes romance is more closely linked to feelings and emotions than logic.
Now, is it the mature thing to do? No. But consider this. You walk up to your crush, or the man of your dreams and work up all the courage you can to get out the words that you want to convey, and he simply waves all of that struggle off with a no. Doesn't exactly feel nice now, does it? Furthermore, most of the times the excuses that you make are the things which insult a man more. A man can figure out when you're making an excuse even though he won't show it. And that excuse which you give to spare his feelings or avoid being rude just adds insult to the injury. By making that polite excuse, you're basically calling him a fool after rejecting him. Better to just say no instead.
As for more mature men, it doesn't hurt any less than what it used to when they were less mature. They've just had that same pain over and over again and grown a thick skin to it.
interesting! can i jump in and ask a question? but what if the guy sorta indicated on the dates he was after sex? and when I ended things he was really cruel and said some mean stuff. (I also don't like rejection but in this case he was not bearing his heart and soul to me- we just went on a date and then he wanted me to go back to his apartment!) penny for your thoughts?
Well, if that's what you saw, then that's probably what it was. It wasn't rejection in this case now, was it?
I don't mean to hurt any sentiments here, but after you politely said no, he saw that you're practically useless to him and he was pissed off at you for wasting both his time and money.
Either that, or he was obsessively expecting attraction from you and being unable to ascertain it, decided to do check it out through the ultimate fashion: sex.
Now, from what you said it sounds more like the former than the latter. He was in the wrong either way.
And another thing, every man wants sex. Some of us just want a few other things such as fun and deeper emotional connections along with that, but the desire for sex remains the same. It's upon the man's patience and openness regarding how long he enjoys the other things before he starts enjoying sex.
Doesn't matter. Money spent is still money spent. And spending your resources does sting when you don't get what you're expecting.
For example, you give a guy £10 for a good torch and he brings you a flaming cloth wrapped on a stick. It's still a torch, but it's not what you wanted.
i got the idea with your "torch" analogy. so what would guys have girls do? i offered to pay-he said no. (in fact he was kind of insulted I offered)
"spending your resources and not getting what you wanted" sounds like instead of trying to start a relationship, just test out the waters, try to make her/him feel special--dating is ACTUALLY buying your way into getting what you want. yikes. we disagree on the subject of dating on a fundamental level. thanks anyways
My views of dating are the same as yours. I'm telling what the man probably thought when he was buying his way into your panties. I don't understand why most people here fail to understand the fundamental difference that opinions and perspectives are two different things, and that while opinions are static, perspectives can shift from one place to another.
I did that twice and I'm not proud of it. I promised myself never do that again.
Frustration, envy, sorrow. Imagine: a girl I loved since childhood (over 20 years), but who always ended up dating someone else, made an offer to rent a flat together and work on her hobbies together. Shortly after, she retracted her offer. She proceeded to treat me in a patronizing way, and demand I do certain things to be allowed to contact her. Insult to the injury (pride).
I acted pathetic, I know. Yet it still hurts 2 years later. Now she has a boyfriend and the relationship is going well. GAME OVER. I can't even be friends with her. I've tried for nearly 20 years, unaware of my true feelings towards her (she was my first love and I never had anyone I could trust for advice). I can't be friends, because hanging around with her is a slippery slope for me, eventually I lose control. She has too many traits I like. The best I can do is apologize and move out of her sight, maybe send her calm greetings every holiday.
from experience I've had it seems like girl just seem to just choose and for most guys it's like we're putting the effort to be with you and when the time comes around to asking the girl for them to say no it's like the guy just wasted like who knows how long plus the courage to ask the girl you have to think about plus when then girl you happen to like during that time doesn't matter how nice you say no it hurts them because it brings down the guys confidence
The first time I had asked a girl out omg it was so bad it was 7th grade. It was at lunch and I had liked this girl for 5 months and I was like okay I'm going to do this walked up to the girl all her friends were with her asked her out and she was "like no sorry I'm not allowed to day" keep that in mind and I was like okay no big deal next day my friend had asked the same girl out she said yes... Okay so that's when I got mad because even though she had said it in a nice way the fact she lied was the thing that pissed me off I was pretty much just a complete asshole to her till the end of 9th grade and beginning of 10th grade then I was an asshole again cause she was starting to be pretty mean to me... and now I'm here where I have no friends and I'm a loner xD my life is so fucked up and it's perfect
What's worse is that a lot of girls think it's polite to provide an excuse like that, even if it's not true. It's like they teach it to each other. I don't know where I learned it but it's not just a girl thing. Women I know do it, too, for all sorts of situations.
yeah maybe is had just said the truth maybe the outcome would've been different but the past is the past oh well
don't expect the guy to be a "friend" after you reject them. In general it benefits straight men almost nothing to have a woman as a "friend" anyways. If he is platonic friends with too many women he also will get labeled negative stereotypes (beta, gay, etc).
Seriously what does he get out of it? Many guys will do nice things (because of subconscious chivalry) for gal pals even though they are not sexually interested. They will buy them drinks, meals, stick up for them, listen to their emotional bs, etc. I know because I had two gal pals I done this for. Although it was strictly platonic but I felt weird about giving them the same treatment in comparison to my buddies.
Also women unintentionally give men bad dating advice (even though when they mean well) because most women don't understand their subconscious sex drive. It's one of the reasons most nice guys are usually raised my domineering mothers.
Anyway it's totally fine to tactfully reject guys. But you are being very disrespectful to them if you "friend zone" them afterwards. If he is a douche right away (after you politely turned him down) than that's his problem. But after the rejection don't ever try to stay friends with him. Don't feel guilty either if you politely turned him down.
Firstly, it doesn't happen in a si gle day that the guy starts liking a girl. When the girl is not dating anyone and she is spending much of her time with him, the guy starts thinking about her, he may not want to risk hos friendship but somehow in the beginning girls make guys feel that they are everything for her. The guy goes to her get a rejection.. She apparently doesn't feel the same way.. He tries to understand her..
Then may be she makes some more friends he doesn't get that kind of attention and he again tries to convey his feelings to her. He cares for her but she is never there when he needs him. He wants to talk it out but she avoids he feels bad and tries to kill his feeling for her but when she is sad again he again fall for her may be just as a friend.
But now to be with her he has to make lots of efforts and to her availability this things comes in between his career goals and he can't understand for what he is taking all the effort for.. She never takes the effort to ask him how he feels.. There were other people who were showing affectio to him which he ignored.. Lots of things he could have done... And just being friends will continue the cycle all over again he decides to come over her and that's probably by not talking.
You may say why many guys do this same thing but even i may say why all of you do the same thing..
You want a normal friend and i want a girlfriend... Your complain sounds more genuine and not mine but every things comes at a costs.. The all goods in you may make people want you more but not more and may be all goods in me make everyone want be as friends and not more.. Each thing has its own cost just yours sound genuine doesn't mean you are correct.. You are expressing as interrogation why it happens with me all the time.. I as a guy is doing it as a frustration.. But we all are expressing our emotions towards something we can't have.. So if we just try to get this.. Who knows both end will get what they want...
there is no way to hate anyway. it can be understood only as personal frustrations with brutal ends, so you do not worry it takes from you actally nothing since you fix what i placed about. but.. if you still care.. in case of this we understand yourz experience about "why...", if it make you thinkig about. the only it sbows, that you still keep at mind that person. maybe it is time to wait for a while.. for sure until you will have exact Yes or No within yourself.. you naybe had a little bit hurry with you No, isn't it?) hovever. the man also looks foolish) only foolidh people hear No) of course he fall in love more fatal as love even can hold) noone girl need deadman, even if he died ih the ocean of passion of her own. you pay me a dollar for this answer, i know) so i tell you the main point ib this. actually. there is no hate. but you tell noone if you know it) and.. there is no choise. feel yourself free. and you can clean with your light any hateness. as high it can be, your tower, and even if you have the best telesystem in the world. you still can not know some of easiest things and not because you silly or it is secret. just there is not time for this. but any your No. it is not summing to your positive scale for shure. pray it won't be too late when yoi decide yes. you already know you're changing.. now believe. not only you. so, i try to say Yes any time. if it comes to me, it is good for shure) if know, it lefts by itself while find no place in my life.
I hate it when that happens. A guy who clearly has interest in you and you reject him or say you have a boyfriend and he's like 'well, I never liked you anyway! You're so pathetic to think that everyone likes you' and you're just standing there like 'what just happened'. Also guys calling you a whore or a bitch and acting bitter. Their little pathetic ego's can't help not every girl likes them.
Exactly!
Because being rejected hurts, so they try to turn the table on you and send the pain right back were it came from. Some men feel like their to good to be rejected, and that you should be thankful that they even considered speaking with you. And their are men who are tired of being rejected to the point they lash out out of anger and pain.. not saying that's reasonable thing to do but it happens. After being rejected for while it tends to make a person as a man or woman feel like they have no biological purpose.
Aesop's fables, The fox and the grapes I think helps explain this thinking.. from Wikipedia, "The story concerns a fox that tries to eat grapes from a vine but cannot reach them. Rather than admit defeat, he states they are undesirable." in one version the fox walks away after trying so hard to get the grapes says... "Awww, those grapes are probably sour anyway... " hope this helps...
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For me, it was because of the time, effort, energy and emotions I've invested, and she throws them away like it meant nothing. It also depends on the way we were rejected. If she was mature enough to actually talk it out and explain things properly that it is her who doesn't want it and not some fault of mine, or maybe that a few qualities in us aren't compatible, it may be okay, but in a case like mine, where for a small fight she breaks up via text and blocks you everywhere, then it's hard not to feel wronged.
I think it's caused by a couple different things.
1) Pain often translates into anger, and everyone feels hurt when they're rejected by someone that they like.
2) To compound the matter, men think that things are going well and are encouraged when we don't outright reject them at the same time that we're trying to politely dissuade them by not responding to their overtures, so our rejection seemingly comes out of nowhere.
Also, women aren't rejected as often as men are, so our response is different from theirs. First we're shocked and wonder what's wrong with them or us, then we're hurt, and finally we're angry. They're hurt, then frustrated (because every time they like a woman, she doesn't return the sentiment... and they're going to be alone forever because nobody wants them) and angry (because, man, screw all of them and all of that noise).
Well, I'm not mean to any girl if they reject me bluntly.
Now I do have a problem with girls that act as if they aren't rejecting us but they really are. For example, there was this girl that I gave my number to a month ago, haven't received a text message since. Now, it's not that she hasn't texted me that is the problem. The problem is that her reaction seemed positive and bubbly to that. This is what I call a passive aggressive rejection. If you do this (reject a dude and beat around the bush because you just can't tell him straight up no,) then I will act bitter and will be very angry.
It's not really a boy or girl question. It's just that men get rejected more because we are the ones who are brave enough to ask girls out. Many girls are kinda lacking in the courage department. Girls probably are not as good in handling rejection, because they rarely get rejected cos they rarely ask guys out.
I don't condone violent behaviour from people who get rejected. The best thing to do is to cut all connections from the person that rejected you and just move on. No need to be rude or mean to the person.
In my opinion it's because when you reject am man he feels bad about himself it hurts his feelings like he wasn't good enough for you so then he tried to make you feel bad as well so you can feel what he felt when you rejected him. It doesn't make it OK, but It's just human nature a lot of people react this way. It often stems from low self-esteem. The be thing to do is just ignore it and he will move on. Sometimes it may help to just try to talk to them. maybe say something like "I understand I may have made you feel bad by turning you down/rejecting you, and I didn't mean to hurt you, you are a great person you just aren't my type in that way; but I would like to be friends if that is possible." sometimes people just want someone to understand. :)
I would say to decrease the rate of problems the way to tell us man (and girls aswell) compliments while turning us down, since this maybe help to compense the pain (maybe the brain thinks then well she dosnt want me but at least she knows that I am not a total failure...)
From the way you ask the question it seems like you get an ego boost by all of the compliments and attention those guys have been giving you. No one is going to lose their dignity if a girl rejects them; therefore, all of the attention they used to give you is now gone and they are moving on you just translate it as if they are hating on you.
One thing to consider too, a lot of times girls and even guys send mixed signals to hook up people or to have options and when they make a choice those people who were given attention and lose it they start being confused and then if they confess to the other sides (after those sides get a date) the answer will be like "oh you just confused between me being nice and interested"
Some guys actually do end up hating the girl because I've seen it happen. However, he only said he hated her because she leads many people on and lives to surround herself with many guys by flirting. Then when he told her, he got put down, nicely but he still got put down and that's when he started hating her. He out and out said he hated her to and stopped hanging around with her unless he ultimately had to because she was sitting with his friends.
@Tay_tay101 I don't think the word choice he is using is correct! It takes so many stabs to make one's heart full of hate especially if it's someone that you have cared of before. I guess it's more of anger than it is hate but the way he expressed is coming out of immaturity and lack of social skills because you don't usually confess negative feelings to others. It is a reaction of him being as you said put down. He will get over it and man the fuck up and realize that sometimes someone may or may not like you back.
A mix of self reflection, ego, and sexual frustration. Men have been conditioned in society to equate self worth with a few key things; having a woman, having a career, and growing into the normal (since the beginning of time) role of leader/ hunter. So when a guy gets rejected, the instantaneous thought is "am i not good enough to have a girlfriend or a sexual partner... am i not a man... am i not worth it?" , you mix that with sexual frustration which the majority of men have, and you have someone whose feeling desperate to get laid as well as moody from lack of sex and less confidant so then they get rejected and that turns into a personal blow in their mind like a big "youre not good enough".
I would imagine if they like you a lot, are complimenting you and spending a lot of time together. the impression that the feeling is mutual is kind of being put across.
for them to then be rejected it would feel like wasted time, that youve been leading them on.
feelings may have developed more due to all things i stated above, so it would have hurt more
Because they're hurt and can't handle rejection, so instead of handling it like a mature person, they take it out on whoever rejected them. A mature person would just say ok, that's fine, and move on. Maybe feel down for a while, but not blame those feelings on anyone. Someone with a fragile ego would not want to process those feelings, so they try to numb themselves by putting the blame on the person who rejected them (even though there's no blame to put on anyone) and try to hide their sadness with anger and bitterness.
This isn't unique to men AT ALL. Rejection hurts, it sux. Guys put themselves out there way more and often if in the same friend group they can't escape you so they just want to make clear, message received.
Reason varies from butt hurt to he was simply chasing tail and now that you're a no go he can't have you hanging around. Onto the next mission.
The question was s why do you care? Work on being a kind considerate person when saying no thanks and then totally expect full departure of coldness so as not to confuse things. They may warm up in time if you were true friends before.
Yes, it is unique to men. Every time a girl rejects a guy, she gets a boost to her ego. Every time a guy is rejected by a girl, he takes a blow to his ego. Girls very rarely get rejected, because the society expects them to pick and choose. You can literally just wait and have guys offer themselves to you. Countless girls on this site ask about guys they like but are not interested in them, and what to do about it. It shows how out of place they feel when they don't automatically get attention from men.
girls get rejected all the time krtek by guys who expect the "perfect" it's just as common as makes getting rejected
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@krtek What I was saying is whe a guy rejects a girl sometimes she does a 180 and goes into bitch mode if hiding from him isn't an option. Icy bitch like ignoring him usually. Or flirting in front of him or covert sabatoge.
Women can be so diabolical. I was raised to be competitive against myself and do my personal best. Probably why I wasn't the best at soccer but I excel in things like endurance running and yoga. It takes practice and discipline but you aren't there to put do an enemy. I did debate and kicked ass but it wasn't about winning.
People who ar driven by winning (not all) tend to be troublesome to date. Women like this only get satisfaction out of rejecting someone a friend liked. They don't flat out reject other men around them because they need the attention.
Hot women may not get rejected but they almost always have been messed around. Women fret over how to turn down a guy if they no them from anywhere other than a bar.
I can only think of maybe 2 times in my life I felt vindicated turning down a guy when I was very young and still just a brush off not a fuck off. Popular kid I liked in middle school who then like me in high school once I had boobs. Popular guy in high school who refused to take me home and a friend home from a party after driving us way out there because I wouldn't put out. When I was in university he came to crash with my friends older brother who tried to set us up and I completely ignored his presence during the meet cute they arranged and left within 5 minutes.
As far as bars go... in my early 20's yeah I was a bit of a bitch if I had to enter a nightclub with a friend and anyone I didn't know tried to talk to me. Bad on me but I'd be the sober one waiting on pinpoint on next meet up of of crew and I'd be happy to have someone to talk to while she grinds for 15 minutes until we had our spot but things get nasty fast or they just stand to close.
So yes I would eventually just say No when they approached me but it didn't give me any enjoyment. It's actually why I refused to accompany my BFF to those horrible discotheques on the bar strip.
Then we became best friends with a couple of guys I'd known for a longtime and trusted. Magic if we had to go downtown. We were chick bait and they were dick repellent seeing as one was tall and protective if we gave him the look that we were uncomfortable. Most guys wouldn't approach us even though it was clear we weren't couples. The guys that did approach were solid. They understood the system.
They realized they had to get accepted by the group meaning treating me respectfully and immediately making cool with my guy friends.
I'm a business professional now and still sometimes if I go to the hotel bar to get a martini waiting for my takeout I'll get a drink sent to me. In a restaurant that's classy in a hotel it makes my skin crawl. I'm not a hooker.
I've noticed that when gets are rude/mad it's usually because they think a girl "lead them on"
But in reality the women in question would probably be perplexed as to how she lead him on when she's nice in the same way to everyone. And the truth in guys have a hard time differentiating between friendly/nice and flirting. Mostly because the norm is for women not to say how they really feel and thus leave guys with having to figure out if we like them or not.
It's a crap shoot, girls can't be nice without guys thinking they like them
And girls don't tell guys what they feel so the guys don't know.
... but then again girls out and out tell guys they only see them as friends and guys bitch about being friend zoned and ask questions about how to get out of it then get pissed when she shoots you down...
Two things, pain and testosterone.
It hurts being rejected.
And we got lots of testosterone to help us fight of other guys (duels for your hand/war) and to protect you and us against dangers (bears/lions/raiders).
And you know how wounded animals are more dangerous then animals that's not hurt?
Well, how does mixing all of those sound?
Basically it's a either you're with us or against us kind of thing and it's surprisingly hard to resist hormones like that as I'm sure you girls can attest to during your period.
Don't get me wrong, it *can* be done and people get different doses of hormones (with some men and women getting little and some a lot)
Well, that's my guess anyway.
I resisted the urge to be an asshole and mean to my ex when she broke up.
But it sure as heck wasn't easy.
Well first this isn't just a guy thing, people in general do this. I've had some amazing relationships one in particular where for some reason she acted like she hated me. My guess is that it is part insecurity and a defense mechanism. No one wants to be hurt so if they treat the person or relationship as being bad or negative they can more easily deal with the loss.
Rejection is very serious with men because Men seek women (Which is very common) and it hurts when we cannot have the woman that we want especially on the positive side like when things are going good, she's single or the woman have nothing to lose but have no explanation on why of giving that man a chance (Which makes men mad and mean to women). My advice to women is when talking to a guy (the same for men towards women) using different types of words or sentences (like speaking in parables) is a big help.
I don't know. I never acted butt hurt over it. It registered (the rejection) but you move to the next chick. It's a simple question of numbers: there are more girls than guys. Eventually you land one.
My problem is when you get rejected and move on without issues..., the girl gets pissed that you "so easily" showed interest in another lady! What the hell difference does it make? You weren't interested, right? Women act like you committed a crime if you find another chick in proximity attractive after you thought she was.
this x1000000, guys just move on and girls take it as an insult, cuz we. ain't interested after a rejection
many women have a certain conplex where they feel empowered if they reject others. not just men sexually but even women hence the stereotypical shit talking when their "friend " leaves the room for a second. being picky about who they allow into their life allows them to create this facade of self importance.
Not that I'm agreeing with them and excusing their behavior, but why do you expect them to keep treating you the same when you find out that they want more than just friendship? They were doing all those things for you because they wanted more, so the best thing for both of you is if they move on and you let them go.
I did not have a problem with rejection per se. I did not like it, of course, but I smiled and moved on.
What pissed me off was when a girl would give me the 'not ready for a relationship' speech (although there had not been mention of a relationship, just a date), or some other BS scripted response; then a few days later I would see her fawning over a knuckle dragger, or some form of the bad boy.
It was not until I was about 30 that I came to realise that those girls did me a favour when they said no.
As for males who become nasty, or aggressive, that response is usually a sign of low IQ, combined with a toxic culture and a sense of narscisstic entitlement.
Then there was the likes of Elliot Roger, who was a sad case of mental illness.
Most of these men also being socially incompetent, so the resulting low self-confidence makes them turn to the primary coping mechanism of insulting the perpetrator (ie. all women).
Also, many cultures raise their men to believe that they are entitled to win the 'affection' of any woman he wants so.. when he moves to a westernized society and realizes that this is not how things work in reality.. it's like a rude awakening. Again, the default coping mechanism of complaining and laying all of the blame on the perpetrator is employed.
So many hurt people in the comment section. It is call nothing but insecurities and being butt hurt. Guys like this think they are entitled to have the girl he wishes, when he don't he becomes childish. The same does girls. What I have learnt (from being on both side as a women) is to leave a guy if he rejects you. No need to become rude or upset. He said no, just leave it at that.. you don't have to become his friend nor his enemy. Just take time for yourself. If you reject a guy, don't expect him to be your friend at all, and if he is rude and disrespectful call him out and tell him to butt out your life. This shouldn't be hard for decent adult beings.
No is no.
Rejection = Impossible to obtain. Once you say no, and we aren't the psycho type, we understand we'll never be able to achieve whatever we wanted. Our brain fixes the problem by thinking we never wanted it in the first place. We hate every aspect of it. It's with matured people that they can realize this fault and look past it to really fix the problem, of possible.
it's a matter of self satisfaction and a subconscious yet at the same time intentional way of making the female feel what he had felt your words to you seem innocent to you because well you did not feel what he felt and that hurt him so in retaliation he gets satisfaction by utilizing harsh words and statements as a form of psychological warfare against yourself to hopefully cause you to lose a sense of confidence if by chance that is successful your weakness becomes there strength. don't allow this to happen and just remember they are merely words or actions in lieu of there heart break it's not there fault it's a physiological self defense mechanism. your best option it's too cut all ties to the individual.
if cutting all ties is not possible because of certain circumstances talk to the person in a calm yet Stern matter tell the person that the things they say to you or do to you hurts you and is only pushing you father away use his emotions as a weapon for leverage. tell him that if he loves you too have some common courtesy to either stop his misgivings out you will simply take measures to ease your way out of his life or simply ignore his very existence. by doing this there love that dwindles inside his head could possibly take some control of his hate and at least cause his actions to cease.
not only men even girls act like that. its in some people nature that they can't accept rejection and even they accept they can't accept the people who rejected bcoz they remembers their weakness and their defeat everytime they see that person and it happens. its like u loved a person with all ur heart and they rejected u and sometimes it breaks the person from inside and it happens its normal and sometimes its about ego like how dare they rejected me? but try to understand him he is being rejected and its a pain to him or maybe after rejection he might started thinking that he is not attractive or like that.
just give him time maybe after some time he will understand reason of ur rejection or if u really treasure his friendship then try to convince him u didn't wanted to hurt him.
Rejection really hurts. I got rejected once and I cried for a few days, no joke. Now that happen to me once, but the average guy probably gets rejected dozens of times a year so it can be extremely painful for them. Furthermore a lot of women can be bitchy when rejecting a guy so that makes things even 100x worst.
The anger after rejection is not a gendered issue. Men do tend to show it more often, while women tend to spin it into "he must be gay/intimidated/afraid of commitment/dumb, etc..." Of course since the vast majority of women are too chicken to ever make a direct move they get rejected way less often.
A lot of times women don't ask the guy is because of the whole gender roles thing implanted in everyone's head. I don't agree with them but that's mainly why women don't ask
@Tay_tay101
Maybe, but I suspect it's often the same as with men who say they don't approach because they are afraid of false charges against them: deep down they know it's a ridiculous excuse that they only use because it conveniently hides their true fear of rejection.
Right but saying the majority of women are chicken and that is why isn't true. Maybe they just feel it's not their place to ask or it might just be because women tend to wait until it's obvious the man or boy feels the same.
I genuinely have no idea. I do find it funny, however, that they often call the girl a "slut" for not being easy enough, when that is the exact opposite of what the word means. Maybe I shouldn't be laughing, though, because a lot of them are probably very lonely and not used to being that way.
When girls give an honest and decent answer were fine but when a girl gives a ridiculous answer or when we ask why and they can't say why that's when we get bitter and mean if you don't give a decent answer or can't say why clearly your lying. And that's disrespectful to a man because I have just gathered the strength and bravery to ask you out and when I am asking you out I am not only asking you to be my potential wife I am asking to share my home to share my salary the money I get for working barely goes towards me it goes towards the bills food the kids the wifes make up etc and yet the funny thing is i'm the one asking you for this? Makes sense right? And then here's this girl lying to my face considering everything above is included is such a simple question the very least a woman can do is give a truthful answer. Because that is taking the pee pee.
Ps I would adviser ignoring pretty much all of the girls answering it has nothing to do with "ego" that's just a classic stereotype you see problem is girls today are clueless and have no open mindedness they go to social media for their education. And because social media says guys do this because of their egos that's what they answer with like I said no open mindedness they never think for an answer they just read a theory and believe it.
Well, women are some of the worst at processing rejection between sexes, in my opinion, but some men will literally go out for blood. I think mostly that's just a manifestation of sexual repression. The one time I acted in a very vicious way towards a woman it was basically entirely motivated by a sexual impulse gone dormant in her rejection of me, & I really didn't find her personality or intellect to be as worth sticking around as her Kardashian like ass. But I think sometimes its also that there's an emotional defeceit that comes from being ignored by the opposite sex which enraptures a males psychology in ways that become a daily problem to confront, one which many do not or will not have the skill to not takw out on random future women.
Just tonight actually. I rejected a guy, who had been calling me for months off of no caller ID and I decided to answer and tell him to go fuck himself. Instead I politely asked him to please stop calling me lol (usually don't go the nice route, here's why) & he fucking called me a fluff and some other shit basically just saying I'm fat and lazy and useless. Now none of this stuff hurts me because come on I know I'm awesome lol but no really it just bothered me that he thought he could basically harass me for months and then decide to disrespect me once I finally grace him with my audio presence. I don't understand someone please help me, no but anyways these men need help!! #StopTheCrazies2017
he couldn't take your rejection
I've been called ugly, to go kill myself among other nasty things just for not being interested in a guy or taking on his advances in one way or another.
And I can confirm I've not been a nasty mean bitch to him to warrant that reaction.
So I concur with this post whole heartedly.
Why turn into such a nasty mean person just because you don't get the answer or outcome you want, when the girl hasn't been mean to you? She had the right to choose for her own reasons that you are not aware of be it she's not single, not straight, just out of a long term relationship etc that she's not interested.
Well once this "society" generally accepts women also making the first move in relationships, then you will never understand how it feels. But it is still not acceptable to say those things.
It has NOTHING to do with society and what's acceptable or expected at all. I say it's an individual thing and a confidence thing.
If your into someone and you want to talk to them go for it be it the girl or the guy who makes the first move. Same goes for who buys who the first drink, dinner or what not. Fuck the rules, stereotypes, stigmas, I certainly do, I play by my own set of rules and do exactly as I please.
So you may not want to preach to me about understand anything as you have absolutely got the wrong person.
There is no reason under any circumstances to belittle or make fun of anyone rejection or no rejection it's fucked and wrong.
That's what I'm verbally expressing. There should be no insults utilized because of repudiation but it is fair to verbalize that more men make the first move than women. In the cessation of the you will proba lily not understand what I am endeavoring to verbalize because you have probably not faced repudiation.
Why would you say or assume that I would not have faced this? I'm a human being am I not? Anyone be it male or female can be rejected!!
And it doesn't matter the stats on who had done it more than the other fact is anyone can make the first move, it is a choice it is not forced upon anyone.
Alright then...
You must live in a tiny box if you think just being a female means you don't get rejected
@HitGirl_4680 The real problem here is that you dont think there statistics of who approaches gets rejected more. It does count. Youve never lived a life of a man so I get it (I also have never lived a life of a woman). If you are a man (most men), maybe a few or no woman would make a move on u in your life time and if you will ever get a chance at dating a man has to build that courage to put himself out there constantly which and the worse is if he keeps getting constant rejection and might get into little bit of self hate and thats when the problem begins cos he is not just reacting to one girls rejection but every previous one. Some men just stop trying lol. a sad existence. Of course you might be the type that would go for what she wants and approach but at the same time I could swear that most of the guys u have been with made the 1st move and you probably have a fleet of men you rejected in ur life time. I really dont expect u to understand the extent of frustration some men feel
Thanks for judging me and I'd say that is where the problem lies you judge women and think we are all the same and don't base one experience alone and move on from it but base it on all!!
Until you stop doing that and get over it the problem will continue. You will continue to live in your box and not see outside your box.
You are talking to a female here the person that you are supposed to be getting rejected all the time by. So maybe you could start listening instead of closing your ears and carrying on with the same thing you've been doing and hasn't been working.
I will say once again we all get rejected boys n girls be it once or a million times over and we all make the first move it's not a one man game and it's the 21st century the rules have changed and been broken and do not stand any longer.
Stop judging stop assuming and stop sitting inside your box!
Okay first fact is I never said that women don't get rejected only stated that farm and then get rejected than women. Don't twist my words.
*That far More men
There is no proven fact of this it is just your thoughts on the matter so you cannot prove that to be the case. Sorry!
Lol so put yourself in a guys shoes... you build up the courage to ask him out and BAM he says no... it's kinda ego-damaging, don't you think? I'm not saying that being fussy and rude about it is ok on his part, not at all. It's just a way to protect his pride. Read about cognitive dissonance and you'd appreciate it. :)
BUT IT IS NORMAL AND LIFE...
Being rude afterward is childish... don't ok the situation
@itiskissie nowhere did I say it's okay. I actually did mention the contrary
Some men would see you in a way from the start but would be timid not to set off your alarms by being "just friendly", quite friendly actually. Until they think you are comfortable enough with them, then they will put take the risk and give you a choice, to take or reject them.
All this time they have imagined the two of you together and have a lot of mental investment in there, so for you to accept them is very important to them.
Once you do reject this change in relationship, however, all of this mental investment goes to waste, all that he thought, nothing anymore. Which stirs up hostile emotions.
I blame the guys.
They shouldn't be mean or bitter towards them (same for girls). However, you can't expect the guy to keep giving you special attention and act like nothing happened after you reject them. I had to keep my distance from my guy friend after he rejected me (especially when he kept giving me mixed signals before and after), but we don't talk anymore and I decided to end my friendship
Nicely put
well I got rejected aswell some times and of course it hurts a lot when you really would do anything for her/him, but I am already over such stuff. It normally hurts the most in this moment when you still had a glance of hope and maybe some days later but I think anyone (who wants to be seen as an adult) shuld be caple of accept it and try to act the same like before. I can not understand this way of acting (from both genders) since anyone should be prepared for this kind of reaction.
yes but it still feels better + when you talk to them you can tell them that this friendship is more important to them than a relationship which maybe will end in a few moths. My best (female) friend is a person I was very interested in and when I cound take the insureness (no clue if this word even exists) anymore I asked her and she told me just this way. Of course I felt terrible and hurtable but I accepted it since this friendship is very important to bith of us. Since them I just try to act as normal as possible (since I am honestly a gentelman its not impossible) and so it worked out for a few months for now.
@The_Gentelman Yeah and I get that in your case, but in mine, he was doing things like walking me to class, asking me to dance with him twice, spending more time with me, basics things he never did before we got closer at the dance. That was leading me on, and that's not nice to do with your friends
Well if you don't keep the special treatment even after the rejection doesn't that mean that the special treatment wasn't so special after all and not so genuine and true towards person? I'm just asking not contradicting you in any way. What you said is most of the time the right.
No it doesn't mean that. Yes it was special treatment before the rejection, but since they do not feel the same, it's not wise to keep giving them special treatment because that'll only make you like them more when they will never see you that way. And just because a person stops giving the special treatment doesn't necessarily mean you aren't still special to them, they just feel the need to move on, and as a good friend, that person should respectively allow them to without giving mixed signals
I meant their treatment towards you. The person that got rejected. But I get your point and support it. It really isn't wise to still give them hopes after saying no XD that would make the person confused. Either way a no is a no, can't do anything about it.
That wasn't so nice of him.
well then he is maybe (or rather modt likly) one of those guys who never understand when it is enught. In this case I would say you should say him (again) and directly that you have no interest
that should work out. maybe he will keep trying for a moth or so. after thus you should have your rest
For some guys, the frustration of being constantly rejected gets the better of them.
This burden of having to directly put yourself out there and directly endure rejection repeatedly to find a partner, is something women will never be able to completely understand.
there may be very different motives...
by exeperience i know that some may also do it to reduce the connection, show their freedom and independance or try to reduce their feelings of attachment - simply by being mean.
other reasons may be that they dont know how to handle such a situation - never learned it or that they want to mask their real feelings of pain, sadnes, shame or boredom.
what else? there are many more cenarios possible - my suggestion - ask which need he tries to fulfill with his strategy...
it's just the devil showing its face. many men boys whatever you want to call them have rejection fears. this could stem from many situations like spending a lot of time and energy (i mean the act of courting) on a crush for a month or so just to find she wants to be friends. you feel embarrassed, bamboozled, and to top it off most guys don't have real friends growing up so they deal with the lip service on their end for their faliure. that's just one insight. in no way am I condoning the fuck boy behavior. in the end I find it funny we all want to fall for someone.
it all comes down to the old adage of counting one's chickens before they hatch and the lack of self worth that comes with years of comparing oneself to all of the perceived "successful" romancers. they invest so much time and emotion into a person, on the same level as those already in a relationship. it's foolish, especially when they treat asking people out as a huge risk and then being so confused when it was a huge risk.
watch out for the ones that stick around though, if they couldn't handle you rejecting them, just imagine how salty they'll be when you start looking at future potential partners.
The best way is simply walk away & be done with it , a man especially will receive far more rejection than a woman , as men are less desired overall than women are , plus a man IS expected to make a bold first move. Never done this , but this would be down to wounded pride , ego & a feeling of worthlessness , men also do not have the support networks & emotional support women do , so this may contribute to lashing out.
However a lot of young women actually revel in dishing out mean & nasty rejections , saw this many a time as a former doorman !!
Yep! Me as well working as a bouncer. I've experienced it first hand. Nothing pisses me off more than some young girl thinking the world owes her something and making guys feel like absolute shit for sport. I've kicked a girl out of the club one time for spewing so much hate towards a guy who simply brought her a drink. She called him ugly in front all her friends and built up a crowd. I took her entitled princess ass to the side, gave her a good lecture about how to act like a decent human being, and kicked her out. She was pissed but I hope that I actually taught her a lesson and she thinks twice next time before intentionally going out of her way humiliate another person for no other reason then she can. Funny thing is that this girl tried to hit on me after. Fucking ridiculous. Girls like that need a serious wake-up call. This is something I see all too often.
@Chico_brah Thank you for doing the world a service.
@Chico_brah Yes , herein the UK , I have ejected groups of the exact same type , these groups often turned on us too , one girl tried to bottle me , as we both know well , humiliated & frustrated men + alcohol = trouble , often BIG trouble. It seem to be more of a problem in the Anglo world , have had reports from Australia of the same shit !! Good work fella... Semper Fi !!
@TMarissaWL These bitches give ALL women a bad name , however have seen these same sort years later leading really shitty lives... karma is a bitch... hahhaha !!
Yea I know and agree 100%. I know one older girl like that too and she's miserable. Thank you @FatherJack for your service too
What they don't seem to realize is that they aren't owed the happily ever after because they "showed up." Life doesn't work like that. Chances are she was putting out a bunch of hints she wasn't interested but he ignored them and tried to push his agenda anyway. Some people don't have any clue how to relate to other people and decide that they are entitled to get their way. That's why they need to do away with participation medals and encourage some actual competitive skills at life.
Us men, we are not conditioned to process emotions nearly as well as our female counterparts. With that in mind, when a man is rejected, assuming he has never faced rejection before, will react aggressively because he initially will feel inadequate; his confidence will take a nosedive.
A man who has been down the bitter road of rejection before will react to rejection in healthier ways such as changing one's appearance or lifestyle and improving as a human being as a result.
Because women don't generally risk rejection, so they rarely out themselves in a position to be rejected - i. e. they rarely ever ask a man for a date. Men are constantly dealing with rejection and it gets old fast. Repeatedly attempting to get a risk-averse class within our society to actually say, "Yes" is extremely frustrating...
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