Actually, since the recession (i. e., since around 2007-2008), women in general have been FAR more reasonable and rational in their expectations of men. By contrast, the 90's and early 2000s had a huge percentage of women who had INSANE expectations...
"I only date men:
- a good-paying job
- with a NEW car
- who own their own house (apartment-dwellers are out of luck!)
- who pay for all dates
- who take me to "nice" (read: expensive) places
- who take me shopping regularly (and pay for everything)
- who buy me "nice" gifts"
You simply wouldn't believe the things that came out of women's mouths back then - granted, the economy was absolutely stupid and people were refi-ing their houses every 6 months and pulling out $50-100k each time and spending it like water - but this led to completely crazy expectations by many, many women.
In the late 2000s, many of those women lost their homes (whether they owned it themselves, or were married, or living with a boyfriend, etc.) and either moved back home or had to share an apartment with someone, and younger women found they couldn't afford to move out of their parents' house in the first place, and it really reset their expectations. Suddenly, a guy without a car, or even without a job, was understandable (the same guy would have been a pariah a few years earlier).
So, coming from that background, the gold-digger, high-expectation types seem rare and moderate to me.
Here's the blunt truth of most guys and girls.
Guys are easy, and have to work hard for the relationship. But we are often emotionally detached, and we prioritize hobbies/objects over relationships a lot of the time. We also like more sex than women do, and this can be a defining factor in a lot of relationships.
Almost any woman can pick up pretty much any guy. They aren't considered creepy when they act slutty (a lot of us will just think she's even more attractive instead). They have a harder time spending time alone, which can make them seem more clingy. There are plenty more bisexual/homosexual women than men, which kinda screws up the whole "supply/demand" thing when it comes to relationships.
So I'm not surprised at all that stuff like what you mentioned happens. If girls can afford to be picky, then they're going to be picky. If I could eat any food in the world, why would I eat at McDonald's?
Now that I think about it, it's all kinda fucked up:
Women demand objects from men, and that's considered fairly normal.
Men demand sex from women, and that's considered wrong.
Really, it's the same exact situation.
Everyone has their standards & preferences, if you cannot match what is requested move on, there is always someone else who can.
So many "go for people way out of their league and get pissed when they're not willing to "settle" &/or only go for people whom they have nothing in common with, simply because those people are hot."
Why bother trying to be with someone you're not compatible with?
Think about it, if in high school this girl is looking for expensive things, that is most likely a part of her reality, so its going to be a part of her personality. So, not being able to afford her, is not going to be the only problem, you two most likely won't have much in common.
Cut your losses & date within your price range or get a job & cater to her wishes. You're never going to change her mind, because there are guys who can & will buy her what she wants.
Also, if she comes from a rich family, her family will keep her stocked with whatever she wants & will supply all the avenues she needs to begin making her own money.
You're fighting a losing battle.
Some girls have this warped delusion that gifts mean something. Considering world history, women were commodities to be sold off, paying for them was once a thing.
It's old social norms mixed with major major advertising manipulation, that makes girls who expect to be brought and guys who expect to pay for them so common and also so fucking unbelievably pathetic.
Sometimes i think the whole world is one steaming pile of suckiness filled with the most stupid people in existence and the best thing for all of us would be if a black hole swallowed everything up.
Sorry if this is a bit melodramatic, been one of those days...
Not all girls are the same. Some girls want it all. Me, personally.. I value the little things. I don't need items, i need time and affection. Ambition and communication. You can buy things together but can you build together? I mean I'm a female, and that's all i want. I dont need gifts, texts every second of the day and a thousand calls a day or all your money. Just time. Communication. Happiness. Sex. Lol. It just depends on the girls your going after.
Do you feel like girls expect too much from guys nowadays?
B. No
If anything I find gals expect far less financially. In the past gals depended on guys for financial survival with males as the sole provider. Nowadays most households are two income.
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I have a hard time understanding how we have a society where men and women are (and should be) considered equals along with this entitled notion that a man is expected to work hard and "get their shit straight" for the purpose of buying "expensive shit" for their girlfriends or wives!
You really DON'T get it both ways! You don't get equality but then get to hold on the notion that women should be treated as a special class of citizen simply because they are women! We are EQUALS now! Men can help with housework, cook, change diapers and women can change the flat tire on their SUV and fix the leaky sink.
The notion that women should be spoiled just for being women is frankly a sexist mindset that stems from a belief that they ARE the "weaker" sex, so it's proper that the "stronger" sex take care of them.
In this age of equality, there is nothing wrong with a woman wanting to be spoiled and treated specially occasionally. What we forget is, that goes both ways! Maybe women should occasionally spoil their man as well! Get your "shit straight" save some money and buy HIM some "expensive shit" that he might want! Shocking huh?
It won't change until guys take stand and stop putting up with this, either by dating women who truly see themselves as equals or by refusing the types of attitudes in the Facebook post above.
A girl should have certain expectations from their guy, but more so in the area of respect and non financial effort, like making them feel as if they are their priority and that they never try and demand or control, but financial praise should never be a womans priority, because this is easy for a guy to do, but that's when you start being controlled and demanded from, because guys find it disrespectful of women to expect a financial gain, we like to use our finances to surprise and treat our women. If a woman takes this away, we struggle with what else we might be able to do, x
Not all girls/women are like that, but yes, it seems like many of them do indeed expect too much from guys. My biggest complaint about this is that they expect guys to provide for them, but they also expect guys to be complete gentlemen, question nothing, completely accept them in every way, and just basically tow the line, and ask for NOTHING in return.
Now, if a guy wanted this out of a girl, there would be an endless stream of "omg you are entitled, women don't you owe anything hurrrrr" replies coming in. The very fact that this double standard exists means that something is wrong. Female entitlement is just as much of an issue as male entitlement. Now lets get on with all the negative replies and downvotes.
What I wonder is why
Girl: "I want a tall, fit, handsome, funny guy who has a good job and treats me like a princess."
People hear that and their reaction is,
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Guy: "I want a cute, fit girl with long hair who is sweet and feminine."
People hear that and their reaction is,
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Well that poll isn't at all one sided. :P
I do think they expect too much. It's not their fault. Just as guys are influenced by films they watch, women see romantic films/shows where guys do all sorts of ridiculous unrealistic stuff for them all the time.
well it was always like that though, ever since the 70s, even the girls in high school wanted expensive jewelry from their boyfriends. not like it actually happens all the time, the girl realizes having a nice boyfriend is more than good enough.
I definitely believe so. I'm 26 and I have a job and have my own place. That's far from enough for girls my age who demand that I be tall, white, have enough cash to get married, initiate first contact, be extroverted, master of conversation and dress formal just to be "boyfriend material" It's unrealistic. I can certainly pay my share but my expectations is just are to just find a girl who stick with me through thick and thin. I saw this even when I was 19. It's been nearly a decade and things have gotten worst even with this economy. When I was 19 they expected me to have a job and be outta my parents' house. Which were still weird expectation, especially that young.
The girlfriend had this kinda attitude probably from too many chick flicks. She got the shock of her life when we moved in together and rent, electric, heating, tv licence, phone, internet, groceries, car, car tax, car insurance, car mechanics, diesel tyres etc all had to be paid for and that I was insisting on all household bills split equally between us after all it isn't the fifties and women can earn money now and I am not her father and she's no longer at the hotel of mom and dad. Every week I put my half on the table and if she came up short it was either get it or get out. Then it was "but you make more money than me" and I was like then get a real job that pays money and dont turn it down because you dont like and its too hard. Personally women have to decide what way they want it as they can't have it both ways. Its either equal rights or its back to traditional values.
I agree. I think it's got to do with how life was back in the day. Very traditional, very proper. I think it just followed through, with some altering and some strong opinion from both genders, we still fall back on those traditions decades and decades ago.
I think there are a lot of women who do and a lot of women who don't; this is the issue of generalizing, while it is a good way to compartmentalize, it offers a lot of room for argument and interpretation. I think that it's honestly more common for both genders to have expectations that too high due to poor socialization and representation in society along with the media and other informational outlets.
Yes. Women expect more from men these days. I am not trying to mean here, but this is why men only want to hit it and quit it with women. It seems like women get bored very easily with men and discard them like they are nothing. Has happened to me a few times. Sometimes women run hot (meaning they are interested in you) and then they run cold (meaning they are not interested in you) and then they alternate between these 2 extremes, which can be perceived as "playing games".
This is why I'm still a virgin XD. Anyway... seriously... I have met so many women that have NEVER been on a date with a guy... but they already had sex. How can you form a relationship without going on dates? A lot of women try to hide the fact that they hook up... but more women are doing it.
look definitely in general i do, but i mean I'm still gonna have my standards because theyre realistic and i dont ask for too much. if a guy doesn't like that, no problem. he can move onto the next girl with different standards.
I think guys put that pressure on themselves. Just be nice, attentive and caring. Most girls don't that age don't expect expensive things and if they do you don't want them. Just slow an effort to make them happy and comfortable.
Girls, yes. Girls will think like this, stupid young girls... but there are an equal amount of stupid young boys to date them, leave them to it.
You can't expect a young guy to be able to do all that. Maybe take you out to dinner at red lobster or buy u a cute teddy bear but most guys are not rich and really can't. As long as he treats you nicely and makes an effort
I can pay for my own shit. The only thing I want my guy to do is
1. Not be sexist
2. Respect me as a person
3. Not cheat (want to go to strip clubs, watch porn etc)
4. Be attractive (face, abs, and muscular arms (not too muscular)
5. Have his own money to buy stuff for himself (we can split everything or take turns)
6. Can be sweet
7. Love to cuddle
That's it. Not hard at all
This is so right man at age and 19 this man suppose to be getting all his priorities together and being full well stable before he can take care of any women that she expect this guy to do if you Ask me I think the women do ask for a lot especially if were expecting the same back I mean I want to be surprise too it should work both ways 50/50 if I had to do something for you I should get the same back right guys that's showing love and caring about one another.
That's what you get when you decide to go after and date stupid, immature girls.
Look for maturity and inner beauty, guys, the she wouldn't expect you to take care of her because she can take care of herself.
My girl honestly never asked for much. just some attention and sex every now and then, she knows I'm busy and well she understands but I do go out of my way to see her even for 30 minutes every two days or so and date night every Friday or Saturday, soundss pretty reasonable to me
Some do and some don't. Just depends on the person and their ideals.
For me I honestly rather spoil the guy, surprise him, and pay for stuff.
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